What is my Player Piano worth?

I am frequently asked the value of what player pianos might be worth. To give you a general idea I offer the following information.

Most people are under the impression that their player piano is a valuable antique worth it's very considerable weight in gold. 99 out of 100 instances this is never the case.

Player lifespan

Player pianos, unlike most other antiques, have a finite lifespan beyond which they deteriorate and as they do so their value decreases proportionately. Player pianos do not improve with age like good wine for example. The materials the playing mechanism is constructed from deteriorate and break down over the years. These materials are highly specialized grades of rubber, rubberised cloth and leather. The replacement of these materials is an extremely skilled, manual, labour intensive and time consuming job. The majority of player pianos are over 70 years old. Whereas earlier in their life patch-up repairs would often suffice most instruments have now so deteriorated only major work bordering on a complete rebuild will ever restore them to anything like their original playing condition. The pianos themselves also show the signs of age and require repairs to some degree. Many are beyond economical repair when taking into account cost of restoration against restored value.

Calculating a rough price estimate

Accordingly a good guideline is often that a non-working player piano is worth no more than the equivalent ordinary piano of it's age and quality. This may be hard to understand suffice to say that a regular piano dealer will probably offer even less than that. To the ordinary piano dealer a non-working player piano is an unsaleable burden amongst their stock. Sadly, many piano dealers will rather rip out the expired mechanism and discard it as it is easier to sell a secondhand piano without a heavy player mechanism that doesn't work.

The scale of price for unrestored instruments is dependant upon

  • the brand of piano
  • the overall playing and cosmetic condition of the piano today
  • the type of player mechanism
  • the overall condition of the player mechanism today

At the low end of the scale are the cheap "transfer names" pianos, cheap pianos fitted with cheap player mechanisms and pianos fitted with player systems considered obsolete or impractical to restore. Whilst all will play satisfactorily if restored they will never be top-rate as the pianos and the player mechanisms were only ever average at best.

Next are the instruments comprising good quality pianos fitted with good and reliable player mechanisms.

At the top end are the reproducing pianos with desirable player mechanisms in top quality pianos in good condition and additionally certain other highly desirable but rare instruments.

Playing condition of instruments

Condition of any instrument affects it's price. Often instruments are described as having been restored. Often the euphemism "restored" means "patched -up and playing weakly" or refers to a previous poor restoration that has actually caused damage in the long term. As a general rule of thumb materials in the player mechanism have a life of about 20 years before they deteriorate to a point where replacement is advisable. Materials deteriorate naturally even if the instrument is hardly ever played.

What constitutes the description "..plays well" is highly variable also. A player that plays well can be pedalled easily with very little exertion producing music soft and loud and it should be possible to play it at an average level with just one foot pedalling at a moderate pace. If your player doesn't do this then please don't think that it "…still plays quite well". Once you have played a player piano in good order you will instantly know the difference.

There are no quick fixes for the majority of instruments, the benefit of patching-up one component will eventually be overtaken as the others cease to function. Most instruments which have been "partly restored" so that they still play to some degree or are "…still playing quite well" will, by simple virtue of the age of the materials inside them, require major to complete rebuilding of their mechanisms to bring them back to good working order.

Any idea of value is arbitrary in the absence of details of any particular instrument suffice to say that clapped out player pianos are sadly from time to time worth the precise sum of absolutely zero and are fit only to be taken down the tip. A good one in good cosmetic condition though not necessarily playing may range from perhaps a few hundred pounds to a few thousand. Fully restored instruments may range from a thousand to several thousand pounds.