"Many have taken positions in this debate, and tempers were raised at times. To those I have offended, I sincerely apologize. And from this experience, emerge a wiser man."

J W Dell

With the failed prediction of slowing planet rotation (20th) and complete stoppage (21st,) J W Dell made his final appearance on sci-astro to offer his apologies.

From: J.William Dell (jakaby@midbc.com)
Subject: Conclusion: Statement of Claim Nov 1 2002
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Date: 2003-05-21 20:27:42 PST

Regarding: Zeta Statement of Claim filed on Sci.Astro Nov. 1 2002

As the time frame and conditions for the return of Planet X/Niburu as given by the "Zeta" from Nancy Lieder have not occurred, it is time for the statement of claim of November 1st 2002 filed on this message board to be declared invalid.

As the proponent in the debate between Enterprise2002 and myself in October 2002,it is my duty to recognize and declare that the Statement of Claim submitted does not stand, based on the evidence.

Whatever was being imaged during the time frame of Sept 2002 to March 2003, was not the alledged Planet X/Niburu as given by Nancy Lieder/Zeta as it has not, in the final outcome, fulfilled the conditions as stated.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/psdate.htm

No object has arrived in the vicinity of Earth matching the description of Planet X/Niburu causing any significant earth rotation slow down as of this date May 21 2003.

Observations May 18 to May 21 2003
122 W 53 N 8:35 AM PDT
http://www.zetabc.com/jwd/sun.htm

As stated in the original debate;
" As time will quickly prove the issue, there is no need for a vote. "

That time has now passed, and the outcome is known.

In closing;

Many have taken positions in this debate, and tempers were raised at times. To those I have offended, I sincerely apologize. And from this experience, emerge a wiser man.

J.William Dell

Appended:
Original Statement of Claim Nov 1 2002

STATEMENT OF CLAIM
LET IT BE KNOWN;

WHEREAS;
In the debate contained under thread "Planet X debate Enterprise2002 vs J.William Dell" the following points have been won by the concession of my opponent.

1) This debate is occurring at the appropriate time in the proper forum. The claims made by Nancy Lieder, where discountable before Sept 21, 2002 have now become of pressing interest and issue, needing rational discussion and some type of determination by this body and the world in general.

2) That extraterrestrial species do exist and would introduce themselves, if government did not introduce them sooner, after the time of a poleshift, predicted to occur in 2003. http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g00.htm

3) That a poleshift of Planet Earth would occur in 2003, due to the return of the planet called Planet X or 10 by our scientists, Called Niburu and Marduk by our ancestors. http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p00.htm

4) In its wisdom, the US Government has followed a different path, and hid this information from both its public, and its elected representatives. And continues to do so.

And WHEREAS;
In the debate contained under thread "Planet X debate Enterprise2002 vs J.William Dell",

1) We are here to debate the issues raised by the CCD imaging taken, of astronomic coordinates, given by a claimed telepath, Nancy Lieder, on behalf of another species, called Zeta who communicate by empathic or telepathic method.
 

2) Empathic communication requires relating of common elements of culture. Through the work of the telepath Nancy Lieder over a seven year period accumulating data from answers given by the Zeta to questions asked from people all over the world. The Zeta have developed a library of information that is now available for the population of Earth to read and explore. Through this understanding gained from the information available at www.zetatalk.com the Zeta believe that Earth's citizens will be better prepared to culturally identify with the Zeta culture and begin peaceful interaction.

And WHEREAS;

1) The Zeta have provided specific coordinates and details regarding Planet X or Niburu. They have provided further predictions that can be seen at http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p00.htm regarding its location, passage, and effects.

2) The images of Sept. 21 2002 , Oct 4 2002, and Oct. 11 2002, taken by telescope and available at http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm are an attempt to both prove the existence of Planet X or Niburu, and through that proof, the existence of the source of the coordinates, the Zeta.

And WHEREAS;
In the debate contained under thread "Planet X debate Enterprise2002 vs J.William Dell" , the following point has been won by the concession of my opponent.

Based on summary image picking up object, refraction angle change due to distance covered over last 12 days, predicted movement by Zeta, earth position at time of imaging, and on looking for most intense red object on film. I conclude that the new Image of Planet X of Oct. 4,2002 is located just above the Sept. 21,2002 PX location as seen on the Summary images of the two dates.
http://www.midbc.com/personal/jwd/Composite%20of%20Planet%20X

Frame1Source1.htm

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED;

1) The Zeta, and no other source, have provided times and coordinates for the approach of Planet X or Niburu, who's approach has been proven in the images taken by Steve Havas on Sept. 21, 2002, and Oct. 4, 2002.

2) Planet X or Niburu is now confirmed by the fact of it having been imaged on three different occasions in the coordinate area specified by the Zeta.

3) The existence and imaging of Planet X or Niburu at the place and time indicated, has now proven the existence of the source of that information, The Zeta.

Notarized by placing in Google Archives under thread " Zeta Statement of Claim " Delivered this day November 1, 2002

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Even in defeat J W is still nothing more than hot air, although he didn't exactly sacrifice anything in the pursuit of Nancy's planet. (Still have the house and job to fall back on don't you J W? Others are not as lucky. Remember that on those cold and windy nights.)

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