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"but NOBODY
but NOBODY
but NOBODY
but NOBODY
but NOBODY..................
will ever, never believe
anything the DeBunkers say from now on!!!!!!!"
Kingman
Countdown T minus Three
months
At the “three month” to poleshift stage there is still a noticeable absence of the regular zetatdrone crowd.
However Pietro is still prattling on and a new "Zetadrone" player has entered the field, a Kingman
(soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Interestingly a possible play on the term "QueenVee"
yet there are noticeable similarities
between both Nancy and Pietro in their style and content.
From: Kingman
(soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject:
Caught!PX- March 6 is obvious!!
Newsgroups:
sci.astro
Date:
2003-03-08 06:35:36 PST
Quite amazing to see such a view with
all the elements in play. The many goons orbiting a complex with thier
swirlin, dippin, diving, name calling stupidity trying DESPERATELY to
keep the debunking on track. This is definitely entertaining. Yep, Zetas
right again!! Time to view what you most fear, your holiday is over.
NOBODY but NOBODY
but NOBODY
but NOBODY
but NOBODY
but NOBODY
but NOBODY..................
will ever, never believe
anything the DeBunkers say from now on!!!!!!!
DEBUNKERSDEBUNKERSDEBUNKERSDEBUNKERSDEBUNKERS
DEBUNKERS
DEB
are these guy's:
Mike Cunnigham, Tholen, Fin Fahey, Tom McDonald, Chosp RDK ,Dr Postman
and the rest of the ones who will try and keep you guessing (and then
drowning).
DEBUNKERS.......
.............LOOK how stupid you all sounded over this latest image.
You are a JOKE!!!!!
KINGMAN
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From:
Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject: Re: Planet X - March 06 image
Newsgroups:
sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur
Date: 2003-03-08 20:07:53 PST
Steve Havas writes:
A single 1200 second 1 x binning image was taken last night, March 06.
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:
How can you distinguish between non-moving
nebulosity and a moving object with just a single image, Havas?<<
zetatalk <zetatalk@zetatalk.com> writes:
To address your question more directly, Dave,<
>>What took so long, Nancy? That's your THIRD
posting in response to the same question to Havas. Couldn't you have
addressed my question more directly the first time?<<
>we can tell it is a moving object, for one,
because it is TRACKING TO THE ZETA COORDINATES<
>>One unsubstantiated claim does not substantiate
another unsubstantiated claim, Nancy.<<
>AND NOT ON EXISTING STAR CHARTS.<
>>On what basis do you make that claim, Nancy?<<
>Specifically, on the dates when images were taken, with FITS files
available always for the public to download and examine on their own
(which thousands do now, per the last count made in early February).<
>>So what, Nancy? The public could download and
examine the images of comet Hale-Bopp as well, but that didn't make the
alleged object following the comet real. Rather, it demonstrated how
people can manipulate the images to falsify them.<<
>And it is also CLEARLY INBOUND AS IT HAS MOVED FROM A DOT
>>On what basis do you claim that it is "CLEARLY INBOUND", Nancy? Where is the astrometry and orbit solution that shows such a change in distance?<<
I see you snipped off what the zetas explained from this post Tholen
Avoid the messy stuff right....?
It's tough, but you sure always find nothing to say.
Kingman
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From:
Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject:
Re: NASA Ready to "Explain" Slowing Rotation of the Earth?
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Date:
2003-03-08 06:52:27 PST
condo514@yahoo.com wrote:
NASA seems to be anticipating questions from the public about the earth's slowing rotation:
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/2003/0210rotation.html<
Michael L Cunningham <bogeystar@earthlink.net>
wrote
Only for the stupid and uninitiated. It's milliseconds and you sound oddly enough to be a zeta drone troll.<<
The utter retardedness of the Nasa explaination says it all.. how
dumb! they are running out of stories!!
Kingman
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From: Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject:
Re: NASA Ready to "Explain" Slowing Rotation of the Earth?
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Date:
2003-03-08 19:40:04 PST
Michael L Cunningham <bogeystar@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Thanks for confirming that you are indeed a Zetadrone.
Michael L. Cunningham
<snip punk-ass Retardadrone>
Thats a great response to my remark....surely makes me believe
the weather is slowing the rotation of the planet. WOW!..... then
that means we can speed up too. Weeeeeeeee!...ee...ee.. e err?
How does that work?
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From:
Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject: Re: debunkers like puppet-actors
Newsgroups:
sci.astro
Date:
2003-03-08 06:42:21 PST
popotski2002@yahoo.com (Maximus) wrote
hello.... don't waste your time with me...?!
>>But it's fun, Pietroll! You are the easiest target ever. Your stupidity is limitless and every time you post you make yourself
look like a complete fool. It is truly amusing to read the drivel you post to sci.astro.<<
> ..of course I'm doing my best...!<
>>You do great service to the debunkers. Anyone who reads your posts surely realises that only an utter moron would believe the things
you do. You must have single-handedly persuaded many people that Planet
X is nonsense.<<
> well the point is:..that...you're running your show...and I'm running
mine..!<
>>Keep up the good work!<<
> I will.. I suggest to you to post in sci punks.-<
>>Why?<<
> because you are...punks..!?
regards
Victor,Maximus,Judoka_61,Dang...whose is next..!?<
>>I can understand that it must be very confusing for you, keeping
track of all those aliases.<<
> naah ! I can handle my puppet better than yours...puppet..!<
Judoka rocks the ....."punks"!!! ...the tards are beaten by one lone
poster, ha!
Kingman
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From: Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject:
Re: debunkers like puppet-actors
Newsgroups:
sci.astro
Date:
2003-03-10 01:58:38 PST
soundstream@sbcglobal.net (Kingman) wrote:.
Judoka rocks the ....."punks"!!! ...the tards are beaten by one
lone poster ha!
Kingman<
liberlegis2002@yahoo.com (Liberlegis) wrote:
Seen any good nebulae recently Pietroll?<<
Liberlegis2002,
Your just one of the many " Retardadrones " desperate and not believed.
Kingman
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From:
Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject:
Re: Planet X: Mar 7 & Mar 8 CCD Camera Image Sets Available
Newsgroups:
sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur
Date: 2003-03-08 20:27:38 PST
zetatalk <zetatalk@zetatalk.com> writes:
Now available for the public to download. Mar 7 images do NOT show
the bright dust cloud of the Mar 6 image.<<
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:
Now why is that, Nancy?<
>>Mar 7 (Mar 8 not analyzed yet) DO, however, show a great number of new objects, some rivaling
existing stars, in the area of the coordinates.<<
>Then it should be possible to do the astrometry and photometry, and report the time, positions, and brightnesses, Nancy. Why not do that?<
>>6 frames, random coordinates indicated.<<
>Then it should be possible to see motion from frame to frame, right Nancy?<
Well Tholen, the images are available where's your version? Afraid of
what
you might produce with these frames. Come on make me believe your right
cause I really want you to be. And that's my only wish right now.
Show me your right, and I'll be accepting
kingman
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From:
Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject: Re: Planet X: Mar 7 & Mar 8 CCD Camera Image Sets Available
Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur
Date:
2003-03-10 01:35:12 PST
Kingman writes:
Well Tholen, the images are available where's your version?<<
tholen@antispam.ham wrote:
I don't need a version, Kingman.
>>Afraid of what you might produce with these frames.<<
> Illogical.<
>>Come on make me believe your right<<
>How about making you believe my left as well, Kingman?<
>>cause I really want you to be.<<
>I think therefore I am, Kingman.<
>>And that's my only wish right now.<<
>That's your choice.<
>>Show me your right, and I'll be accepting<<
>How about me showing you my left, Kingman?<
Tholen your worthless, meaningless, and come off as a bot
Kingman
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From: Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject:
Re: Planet X: Mar 6 Nebula Ghost?
Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur
Date:
2003-03-08 20:18:57 PST
zetatalk <zetatalk@zetatalk.com>
It appears from correspondence with the scope owner that someone took
an image of M42 prior to the Mar 6 single image taken. How convenient for debunking. (http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/naji26.htm)
Arnie said the following to me using Yahoo Messenger.
Naji
arnierosner(9:51:21 PM [EST 3/7/2003]: It looks like there was some residual charge left in the camera previous to your first image. The Orion Nebula is clearly embedded in the background.
arnierosner: OK. I seem to remember another client taking a 120 second image of m42. It was probably before your image and it left a latent image on the chip because it was so saturated.
arnierosner: I just don't remember what days this occured or the sequence of events.
From: John P. Oliver
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:01 PM
Subject: Hoax or Mistake?
Arnie: I assume that the image take by Naji posted at http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/naji23.htm was taken with one of your scopes. As presented it is clearly a superposition of an image of the Orion nebula M42/43 onto a different star field. Could you look at your logs and see if by chance the same scope imaged M42 immediately before Naji did his image and it left a ghost?
John Oliver
>What I, Nancy, am not understanding is why the nebula came through as
a ghost, but the intense STARS in the center of the nebula did not! Are they not more intense than the nebula? (http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/dell39.htm)<
>From the technical description of how a ghost works, would not the
STARS transfer more readily than the nebula itself? Yet they are missing. (http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/naji27.htm)<
>If the cloud was there, it should have showed up on the images that I took the next night [Mar 7] as well.
> The CCD controller can give a "short circuit" signal or as they call it a reset signal to erase CCD contents. It's more like a capacitor discharge. This ?short circuit? is based on transistors, which have resistance. It?s more like a resistor than a short circuit wire. It takes time to discharge. The default timing is enough for most applications. It must be a controller malfunction, and/or the user before me took a really very long bright exposure. I think it?s the first, a controller malfunctioned and didn?t apply reset as it should be or didn?t apply a long enough rest signal, or the reset signal was not received correctly by the CCD (most likely cause). Electric noise can affect controller?s signals, and thus misinterpreted by the CCD electronics.<
>One way to avoid this is by taking a short dummy image and through it. This does not happen very often.
Naji
The image appears to have been 'soften' by making the scope loop in a
circlularpattern as it tracked the image. Notice the circle patterns
in the cloudy area. Looks like Naji got set-up.
Not Naji's fault by any means.
Kingman
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From: tholen@antispam.ham (tholen@antispam.ham)
Subject:
Re: Planet X: Mar 6 Nebula Ghost?
Newsgroups:
sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur
Date:
2003-03-08 21:48:13 PST
Kingman writes:
The image appears to have been 'soften' by making the scope loop in a circlularpattern as it tracked the image. Notice the circle patterns in the cloudy area.
Then why aren't the stars circles?
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From: Kingman (soundstream@sbcglobal.net)
Subject:
Re: Planet X: Mar 6 Nebula Ghost?
Newsgroups:
sci.astro
Date: 2003-03-10 03:20:36 PST
Kingman wrote:
The image appears to have been 'soften' by making the scope loop in
a circlularpattern as it tracked the image. Notice the circle
patterns in the cloudy area. Looks like Naji got set-up. Not Naji's fault by any means.
Kingman
John Oliver <oliver@astro.ufl.edu> wrote:
The circles are dust donuts caused by dust on a surface near but not in the focal plane shadowing the CCD. They would have been removed by proper application of the flat since the whole purpose of a flat is to correct for variations in light and variations in response over the area of the CCD. One can calculate which surface is dusty by measuring the diameter of the donut. Multiply the diamter times the f-ratio of the optical system and you get the distance from the dust particle to the focal plane.
david.paterson@noluncheonmeat.btinternet.com
wrote:
I noticed that as well - very poor imaging, and poor maintenance of their equipment.
I loved Nancy's description of Naji as a "technical wiz" :)) He may put the average zetadrone to shame, but he's well out of his depth when it comes to taking astro images.
Of course Nancy's latest recruit "Kingman" (wonder if he's related to Qeenvee?) shows the usual abject ignorance of imaging and optical systems, as well as his lack of knowledge in physics and astronomy.
Just once it would be interesting if they could put forward someone who actually knew what they were talking about....
DP
I take into account all the foolish thrashing all you debunking fools do
to any posting that refers to the alternative belief that PX does exist.
You swarm and fester anything that sounds like it's agreeing with a
PX visit. You say, " cause it's not there" or line up to take turns at
the
name calling. To step back and and view these actions from afar is
obvious the method of attacking the messager (debunking method).
It's clear to all who read these postings.
Kingman
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Mr Kingman appears to know a considerable
amount about those on sci-astro, despite his very recent appearance,
which would mean he/she has spent considerable time reading, or
contributing under another identity. He is proving to be an up and coming Zeta disciple? Time, (although
not much left) will tell.
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