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“Take
a hint; shut up and piss off.” Mike
Otway While
there have been a “few” attempting to enquire and debate the
possibility of a 12th planet with those on sci-astro. The
vast majority, (better know on sci-astro as “Zeta-drones,” “Zeta-bots,”
“Trolls” and “Sock-puppets,”) have shown little or no interest
in debating anything. In fact one must begin to question their whole
reasoning, especially as time draws close to their alleged date, as they
should be moving off to their survival sites and preparing for a
devastating pole shift. Secondly now Nancy and Havas have alleged images
of the 12th planet why is no one attempting to reach the
experienced astronomy fields to get the images verified, or at the very
least going to the available media outlets and presenting their find
instead of haunting a minor amateur astronomy group. Here
is a selection of the vastly superior debating techniques used by those
supporting Nancy’s theory. (I must point out that sometimes the
response from sci-astro is no better, but then they have been putting up
with this kind of contribution since around 1997.) Mike
Otway (Wag_the_Dog)
(lupus33@hotmail.com)
appeared in July 2002 making a very brief appearance then disappeared
until August where once again he vanished until December has barely been
on the groups a week and he’s repeating Nancy like a parrot. From:
Wag_the_Dog
(lupus33@hotmail.com) "BFelix"
<brfelix@lycos.com>
wrote: >
Velikovsky's been dead for a generation, and his works are hardly
mainstream references, yet for more than 50 years Velikovsky (dead or
alive) has been able to trigger intense emotions among some planetary
scientists and their defenders.<
>>
Why? Because trolls like yourself never learn. People become
frustrated with trolls like you who never learn. They get upset
when confronted with willful ignorance, dishonesty, and outright
stupidity and they let it be known. Like now.<< I
suspect, "Chosp", that you actually become frustrated when
posed a question which requires you to THINK-clearly a painful
proposition for you.
------o------ From:
Wag_the_Dog
(lupus33@hotmail.com) The
greatest proof of all that Nancy Lieder is telling the truth is your
obsession with her, Tholen. You claim that she is a nut. Do you visit
local mental institutions, and argue against the delusions of paranoid
schizophrenics? No? Why not? At least be consistent. I
have to say, though, that's it is most amusing to watch your ignominious
demise unfold. Having chosen the path of absoute cowardice, you now find
yourself caught between your vicious handlers, and an angry public. It's
like watching an insect hopelessly caught in its own web of lies,
beginning to panic as it realizes that it wasn't Mike
Otway. ------o------ From:
Wag_the_Dog
(lupus33@hotmail.com) Subject:
Re:
Question re: Zeta believers Newsgroups:
sci.astro Date:
2002-12-19
01:02:57 PST I'm
mostly a lurker, here for a few laughs. My question is:
No
I'd say you're a lurker because you lack a spine. Your cowardice
prevents you from collating the considerable information required to put
all the PX info together. The laughs are on you. ------o------
From:
Wag_the_Dog (lupus33@hotmail.com) Subject:
Re: sci.astro.amateur and ZetaCult posts Newsgroups:
sci.astro Date:
2002-12-17 02:02:30 PST
>>>sarahmac@hotpop.com
(Sarah Mc) wrote... I'm
guilty of posting and not checking the original crossposts myself. Let's
not pollute SAA with Lieder's trash anymore than her original posts. Please
snip SAA from any replies as best you can remember. As much as we
despise her spamming and cult propaganda here, it's even more off-topic
in SAA. Thanks
for keeping vigilant, I'll do my best to remember as well.<<< ------o------ From:
Wag_the_Dog (lupus33@hotmail.com) Subject:
Re: sci.astro.amateur and ZetaCult posts Newsgroups:
sci.astro >
> lupus33@hotmail.com
(Wag_the_Dog) wrote SarahMac...?
Another government cipher, another establishment whore.
I
send chills up your spine, don't I? Be careful now, or I'll be sending
the chemtrail-spraying buzzards over your house tonight, just like J
William Dell's fumigation. No,
SarahMc, you make me want to vomit.
Do you put out for everyone or just people with money? I'd guess for
free, though.
As far as fumigation goes, a good dose might get of cockroaches like
you, Cunningham and Tholen. ------o------
Subject:
Re: Unanswered Questions Newsgroups:
sci.astro Date:
2002-12-19 01:25:58 PST
All,
Serious
and critical questions were posed both to Steve Havas and J. William
Dell. These questions were significant issues in determining the
actual existance of their so called Planet X. Questions requiring
clarification before their images can be seriously considered.
Questions which ask for explanations of the phenomena they 'claim' to
see in their imaging. Neither
of these individuals have responded to repeated attempts to ask these
questions. In the most recent case, J William Dell, noted
the questions in a reply message, minus any direct response to them with
merely a flippant response about his 'upcoming report'
It
should be noted on repeated occasions, Mr. Dell has ranted that no one
has attempted to understand and analyze his groups so-called images of
their planet, however when requested to provide particular information
which could lead to identification of that same planet, they have
repeatedly ignored the questions. But
when pressed on specific supporting details, needed to provide serious
analysis, they have avoided any direct statements. In
light of this, and given that the two individuals have high positions
within the Zetatalk organization (Mr. Havas as chief astronomer and
imager to her majesty) and Mr. Dell (the most excellent pixel analyst
and soon to be Grand Vizir) it is my claim that they have proven through
their own actions that there is no such planet and that their many
images are nothing more than a HOAX. The
public should beware and be very skeptical of information coming from
these sources.
O'Brother<<< Why
should Steve or Dell respond to an insulting post by a spineless You
are just another
snotty nosed little shit,
demanding attention, and getting nasty when you don't get it. Take
a hint;
shut up and piss off. ------o------ From:
Wag_the_Dog (lupus33@hotmail.com) Subject:
Re: Nov
16 IRC, too funny! Newsgroups:
sci.astro Date:
2002-12-19 00:51:12 PST >>>Himitsu
<seqenenra@spammersdelindeest.hotpop.com>
wrote: I
think that is fair. I would be more than happy to ignore the High Kook
Priestess nancy/abc while holding court if they and their rabble would
stay out of sci.astro. Maybe it is time for a new ng.
alt.usenet.kook.zetatalk or something.<<< >>>>>david.paterson@noluncheonmeat.btinternet.com
wrote Maybe
we should all log in to Nancy's next IRC session and ask lots of awkward
questions, continually tell her she's wrong, and generally clutter the
place up - and at the same time make the point clearly that it's just
like her and her minions spamming newsgroups. Too
late! Immature
losers like
yourself have already tried this. ------o------ And
he has the cheek to call them immature? However it is a good example of
Mr Otway’s debating skills.
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