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By the
way, I saw it today coming home, about 3:00 PM in the daytime sky.
Diffuse orange circle larger than the sun, below the sun toward the
horizon to the west."
Nancy Lieder
A fair bit happening now.
First #Zetatalk, due to some internal wrangling was handed over to what
the Zeta faithful term as "debunkers" effectively destroying the chat
group. So they hastily set up #Zetatlk_crisis so Nancy could continue
uninterrupted.
May 15th came and went with
no discernable difference and no sighting of PX. Now to quash the
latest Zeta myth being banded around by the anti-Zeta
crowd, Nancy has never stated May 15th as the poleshift date.
She has always maintained this date as
the appropriate date to be at your designated safe location.
(Although every Zeta disciple seems to be ignoring her warnings
and still plainly visible within the current TT posts and IRC cats. Only
Milly Gumper and Jan Rypdal seem curiously
quiet.)
Rotation stoppage is now stated as May 21st
with the pole shift around the 27th as provided by Robert Sepher and not
the Zetas. (These were his calculations before the Lou Gentile
show on the 16th and Nancy's session on the 17th. (Interesting how a
human came up with the numbers and not the
Zetas.)
Zetatalk IRC
May
17th, 2003
[22:21]
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[Nancy can still not use her original nickname of NancyL]
[22:21]
<NancyHere>
NancyHere is NancyL :-)
[22:22]
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[22:22]
<NancyHere>
Ops, I have my password but do not know what to do with it, just sent it
to you'all so check you email queue.
[22:23]
<QueenVee>
nancy: just PM ne with it
[22:24]
<NancyHere>
My plan is to read into the log as the SIGNS replacement the May 15th
ACTUAL ZT that was read over the Lou Gentile live radio last night.
[22:24]
<NancyHere>
This way the log can reflect this, as Gentile streaming archieves are
late.
[22:25]
<QueenVee>
okay, nancy, let me know when you want moderation mode on
[22:25]
<NancyHere>
I also plan to hold this hours discussion to the PS date and rotation
stoppage date/times, as a DAY is meridian to meridian and thus there is
kind of a worst case, best cast as to the HOUR, so would like help in
computing this from the attendees.
[22:26]
<NancyHere>
I think when I said May 20 was late
sunset and May 21 stoppage I was counting 7, not 5.9 (6) days back.
[22:27]
<NancyHere>
May 27 (6) May 26 (5) May 25 (4) May
24 (3) May 23 (2) May 21 (1 and date rotation STOPS) May 20 slowdown.
RIGHT?
[22:27]
<NancyHere>
Maybe I did get it right after all. Exhuasted here.
[22:28]
<NancyHere>
OverManz, PX op in Iraq taken as Q2 if there is time but the hour is for
the detail of the shift released last night.
[22:29]
<NancyHere> I'm getting
multiple IM's from a script so I will check the one I replied my
password to if this person requests I do so, IM, ignorning others.
[22:29]
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has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving )
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[22:32]
<NancyHere>
Queen, I did this to myself trying to
delete IM's so you can repeat our steps.
[22:33]
<NancyHere> I don't
receive IM's nor read them, except re the ops. NO IM Q's!
[22:34]
<NancyHere>
I'm going to post the May 15 ACTUAL
ZT for the group here, even though it is not the hour. This was at the
start of the Gentile show last night. May 15 was NOT the day of the
shift, ever.
[22:34]
<NancyHere> ACTUAL ZT: The
comet will be visible to the eye for approximately 7.3 weeks, certainly
no less than 43 days, prior to the great gravitational and magnetic
disruption we have described. All will be aware of it, though most will
discount its presence.
[22:35]
<NancyHere>
from ZetaTalk: Time Frame (1995)
[22:35]
<NancyHere> ACTUAL ZT: The
date of May 15th has often been referred to as an early date, to some
degree. This is early to some degree, the number of days or weeks not
specified. Anyone who has severed their life elsewhere and is in a safe
place by May 15th will not find this distressing, or have any regrets.
[22:35]
<NancyHere>
from ZetaTalk: Hour of the Shift p134 (Nov 2001)
[22:35]
<NancyHere> ACTUAL ZT:
Thus, you have Planet X in the news, under every subject but the inbound
planet that will pass on May 15, 2003 or shortly thereafter.
[22:36]
<NancyHere>
from ZetaTalk: Solar Flares (Jun
2002)
[22:36]
<NancyHere> ACTUAL ZT: We
have stated that Planet X will be visible in the daytime sky, 7 weeks
before passage. Given that we have stated that passage is shortly after
May 15, 2003, as at this time those wanting to survive should be at
their safe locations, this is putting the visibility into the last week
of March at the earliest.
[But
it isn't visible, and hasn't been anytime within that 7 week timeframe.
Nancy Zeta prediction is wrong, but she's still quoting it.]
[22:36]
<NancyHere>
from ZetaTalk: April 2003 9 (Jan 2003)
[Wait
a minute April 2003? She's not even using new material, just re-vamping
the old stuff yet again.]
[22:37]
<NancyHere>
END ACTUAL ZT on May 15th
[22:38]
<NancyHere> So ZT stated,
always, that this date was a tad early, NOT the actual date, and any
insistence by debunkers that May 15 was the date is a disinfo attempt to
keep innocents from being away for another few days. Such is there
orientation toward service to others.
[22:38]
<NancyHere> Queen, I'd
like open discussion on the dates, times instead, thanks!
[Wow,
Nancy must be feeling brave today.]
[22:40]
<NancyHere>
My main point that I feel needs clarification is the meridian, or
perhaps I'm not using the right word, as does 27th mean for the Swiss,
or for China?
[Someone run that one past me again it makes no sense what so ever.]
[22:41]
<NancyHere> By the way, I
saw it today coming home, about 3:00 PM in the daytime sky. Diffuse
orange circle larger than the sun, below the sun toward the horizon to
the west.
[Of
course you did Nancy, but no one else can find it.]
[22:40] <ZetaCurio> as
PX locks onto Atlantic ridge, perhaps is UTC or Greenwich based time
[22:42]
<NancyHere>
Zetacurio, I will ask the Z's to clarify as we had an East Coast
audience last night, so I suspect this was May 27th for THEM.
[22:42]
<NancyHere>
If the Ops will +m me, I will address
this.
[22:42]
<NancyHere> ZT: Since we
were precise about the dates, even the number of hours for rotation
stoppage (5.9 days), we have no problem with being precise on the
meaning of the PS date as May 27.
[Wait
a minute I thought the Zetas wouldn't give a date because they didn't
want the elite to know the exact time of PX? What's wrong have they now
changed their minds? Just shows yet another contradiction on Nancy's
part.]
[22:43]
<NancyHere>
Let us use the rotation STOPPAGE
point as a key point, as this also has a known location - the Atlantic
Rift.
[22:46]
<NancyHere> ZT: If the
shift occurs on May 27, and rotation stoppage is for a 5.9 days lenght
of time, then count back 5.9 days to find the DAY when rotation stops.
[Oh
my like we need an explanation from the Zetas to work that one out.]
[22:47]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Since rotation stoppage happens when the Atlantic Rift is fixed
facing the approaching Planet X, we know that the end point of the time
line should be May 27th for the Atlantic Rift as it is WHEN ROTATION
STOPS.
[22:47]
<NancyHere> ZT: This is a
key point as there is a day of slowing, the slowdown to stoppage
happening WITHIN A DAY as we have stated.
[22:48]
<NancyHere>
ZT: So on May 21st, 5.9 days before
the shift, the Atlantic Rift is positioned facing the approaching Planet
X, which is coming up toward the Earth from beneath the Sun and a tad to
the right as seen from Earth.
[22:50]
<NancyHere>
Given that rotation stoppage took
less than a day to happen, the slowdown started on May 20, but assume
for the sake of simplicity that it took exactly 24 hours to slowdown,
the equates to a 36 hour period since the last time the Atlantic Rift
was positioned facing Planet X!
[22:51]
<NancyHere>
Oops, s/h/b ZT: there
[22:52]
<NancyHere>
ZT: In other words, the Atlantic Rift
is positioned on the farthest side of the Earth from the face presented
to Planet X when that DAY of rotation slowdown occurs, the day taking 24
hours for a 12 hour turn of the globe.
[22:53]
<NancyHere>
Thus, you actually have the slowdown starting on the 19th, but almost
imerceptibly.
[22:53]
<NancyHere> Oops, ZT there
also.
[22:53]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Then on the 20th, when the Atlantic Rift is positioned facing Planet
X, it LINGERS there, creating the late sundown we stated will be
observed.
[22:55]
<NancyHere>
ZT: The lingering will cause a later
sunset for Europe, Africa, and an even later sunset for the Americas,
but for Asia where it is already night, this will not be noticed, nor
Australia and Japan.
[22:57]
<NancyHere>
ZT: The slowdown at this point is
such that the Atlantic Rift is not only LINGERING facing Planet X, is
resists moving on to the extent that the Earth is already in a slower
rotation when it does manage to pull the Atlantic Rift away and move it
to the dark side of the Earth.
[22:58]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Thus slowed, it provides for those parts of the globe that missed a
late sunset with a late SUNRISE!
[22:59]
<NancyHere> ZT: Thus
slowed, it also comes into the day represented by May 21 with a rotation
that lacks momentum, and thus THIS time when it lingers, it cannot
excape the linger.
[22:59]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Thus, when we describe May 20 as
a DAY, this is a slow day, taking longer than 24 hours, and should be
computed as such.
[23:01]
<NancyHere>
Rotation has slowed, so that the
sunset is some hours late, the sunrise hours late for others, and the
1/4 of a day that it takes the Atlantic Rift to come into the grip of
Planet X, facing Planet X, to the point where it faces it squarly, is
slightly longer than 6 hours, as this must include rotation coming to a
halt!
[23:01]
<NancyHere>
End ZT on this matter and open for Q's on this matter.
[Hang
on a minute, this is exactly the deadline that Robert Sepehr (AKA
gtrobaugh, AKA samsara,) posted to his web site earlier in the week. Ok
without the dramatic embellishment, but basically the same. I guess that
means the Zetas have access to the internet, either that or they're now
passing on information to their lesser minions before their prime
emissary. Oh dear could it mean she is falling from favour? Will we soon
see Sepehrtalk, from the self confessed schizophrenic, come spam agent
and porn king? Now that website should be interesting.]
[23:01]
<NancyHere>
Thanks Ops.
[23:01]
<VVizz>
FollowUP: If PX grips the Atlantic
Rift by his magnetism, shouldn't the see not be attracted either, so
neither Europe, neither USA East side shall be flooded, principle of the
moons tides !
[23:03]
<NancyHere>
VVizz asks about the sea heaping up during rotation stoppage, as ancient
texts report.
[23:03]
<samsara> Can the Zetas
say what timezone this may best be calculated for? GMT? mid-atlantic
rift time?
[23:04]
<NancyHere>
ZT to VVizz: This heaping does occur,
creating larger waves at sea and noticeably larger peaks in waves in
small bodies of water, but only during passage, the time of passage.
[23:06]
<NancyHere> ZT: Water in
the oceans will flow to the poles during stoppage, the coastlines
bordering the Atlantic such as the SE of the US and western Brittish Ils
will not notice their gradual pull down by 150 feet below sea level,
thus, but should include this loss of sea level in their computations
for safety
[23:06]
<NancyHere> End ZT to
VVizz going to next valid followup, please remain +m
[23:06]
<NancyHere> ZT to Samsara:
calculate the time line we have given from placement at the Atlantic
Rift, whatever time zone that represents.
[23:07]
<NancyHere>
End ZT to Samsara, remain +m please
thanks.
[23:02]
<Empower>
wow, so a long sunset in ROME :-)
[23:08]
<NancyHere>
ZT to Emnpower: the delay in sunset, sunrise, in the day before rotation
stoppage is given as a guide approximately 2.43 hours late.
[23:09]
<NancyHere>
End ZT to Empower, please remain +m thanks.
[23:02]
<dBug> why all those dates
NOW
[23:10]
<NancyHere>
ZT to dBug: as explained on Gentile last evening, but repeated here as
many will not be able to hear this streaming audio, we have given the
dates out because the US and Indonesian governments can no longer
succeed with their plans.
[23:11]
<NancyHere>
ZT: We had held the date close, to
put these goverments in the same position the common man they planned to
murder are in, so that rotation stoppage would happen SUDDENLY and
prevent a smooth blocading of the city dwellers.
[23:12]
<NancyHere>
ZT: As Nancy has been able to be interviewed in the US, the message of
these plans replayed around the world, cooperation by the military or
locale police in such blocades are unlikely to happen.
[23:13]
<NancyHere> ZT: Given such
orders, they would object, refuse, allow escape, as they know the TRUE
adgenda.
[23:14]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Thus, the number of people injured by withholding the date
outnumbered the number that would be murdered, the balance scale tipped.
[23:14]
<NancyHere> End ZT to dBug,
please remain +m thanks.
[Well
that makes sense. Why couldn't she simply "say we left it to the last
minute on purpose". Na, on second thoughts Nancy doesn't make anything
easy.]
[23:03]
<Earth420> Can the Zs
comment on the slowing rotation, peoples reactions... and maybe a heads
up on any "dangers" ahead... things to look out on? Thanks... :)
[23:15]
<NancyHere>
ZT to Earth420: What will happen
during the week of rotation stoppage was addressed on the Gentile hour,
but we will repeat it here, etc.
[23:17]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Since the wild weather that has
been increasing since 1995 is caused by a combination of undersea
volcanoes in Indonesia, warming the Pacific such that warmer waters move
against the coastlines of the Americas, and the melting poles and
glaciers plunge cold water UNDER this, creating swirling in the oceans
beyond normal, we can expect this to increase during rotation stoppage.
[23:18]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Add to this that the atmosphere is not getting is regular cooling or
warming during rotation, is not EVEN, and thus air masses will tend to
rush more to equalize themselves.
[23:18]
<NancyHere> ZT: This will
spawn more episodes such as the week of 400+ tornadoes in the US.
[23:19]
<NancyHere>
ZT: The air masses that caused these
tornadoes were following the wild swings they assumed over the Pacific,
and this pattern will only become more pronounced during rotation
stoppage.
[23:19]
<NancyHere> ZT: Likewise,
the oceans will be swirling, whirlpools developing that will take down
large ships at sea, and even placid waters along coastlines presenting
more danger than usual.
[23:20]
<NancyHere>
End ZT to Earth, but keep me +m until
I check for more Q's, thanks.
[23:20]
<NancyHere> More to Earth
re peoples reactions...
[23:20]
<NancyHere> ZT: This also
was addressed last evening, but will be repeated.
[23:21]
<NancyHere> ZT: Gentile
asked what the difference in the public KNOWING about the coming
cataclysms or being kept in the dark would be.
[23:22]
<NancyHere> ZT: The elite,
those in power who KNOW about this, in the uS, Russia, Japan, Australia,
and Brittain, wish to keep the common man in doubt as long as possible.
[23:22]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Thus the common man will go to his job, pay bills, respect police,
fear the court system, and stay predictable.
[23:23]
<NancyHere> ZT: Should an
announcement by the government that a pole shift of the magnitude we
have described would likely OCCUR be made, quite a different scenario
would ensue.
[23:24]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Most workers would fail to go to
their jobs, and thus security of businesses would be vulnerable,
distribution of goods unpredictable as it would in essence stop.
[23:24]
<NancyHere> ZT: Looting
would start, with wealthy enclaves looted by such an overrun of mobs
that security could not contain them.
[23:25]
<NancyHere> ZT: This would
leave the wealthy to face mobs continually coming at them, long after
the goods have run out, and left to face the rage of the mobs who find
there is nothing left to loot.
[23:26]
<NancyHere> ZT: The
police, security services, would not be respected as enforceble, and
would likely simply join the looting.
[23:27]
<NancyHere>
ZT: The military, seeing they are
being assigned to form cordons around places such as the White House,
with no discussion whatsoever about how their families are to be cared
for during the shift, would slip away, going AWOL, leaving spots in the
denfences unguarded.
[23:27]
<NancyHere>
ZT: This is what the wealthy FEAR,
the powerful in government FEAR, and thus the absolutely silence up
until the end, no warning to the public.
[23:28]
<NancyHere>
ZT: The flip side of this coin is that the LARGER population, who would
not loot, would be informed, would have a change to prepare, move to
safety, and not be hysterical in front of their small children when the
time comes.
[23:29]
<NancyHere> ZT: Thus,
overall, it is more loving, more considerate, to INFORM, but those in
charge of the coverup care not for this.
[23:29]
<NancyHere>
End ZT to Earth and I think I've
covered all valid Q's, so no more +m needed thanks!
[Well
nothing new there.]
[23:29]
<Brazil_v>
Nancy, are these information going to ZetaTalk web site tomorrow? I
mean, not only this log, maybe in What's New or a new front page link.
[23:32]
<NancyHere>
Brazil, I will have this info on the
web site as a log tomorrow, and shortly on all mirror sites too.
[23:33]
<NancyHere> Brazil, it is
also my plan to replace the C2CDebate spot with a PS Date link with the
new ZT from this chat, edited, cleaned up, easy to access.
[23:29]
<Drkstarba>
Nancy, approximately when will we begin to experience the elevated wind
speeds?
[23:32]
<NancyHere>
Drk, high winds happen when the crust
starts to MOVE, the atmosphere not, in other words, the hour of the
shift!
[23:33]
<NancyHere> This is
confused by more irregular weather during the 5.9 days of rotation
stoppage, I realize.
[23:30]
<Fido77>
What power/dynamic will cause the
earth to START rotation again AFTER the pole shift?
[23:35]
<NancyHere>
Fido and those worried about rotation restarting, rotation happens
driven by the core of the Earth, which is not homogenious,and parts
attracted to this or that in the Universe, pulls and pushes.
[23:35]
<NancyHere> Rotation link
in the Science section.
[23:36]
<NancyHere>
OK, I've caught up, no +m needed now,
more Q's :-) thanks!
[23:36]
<NancyHere>
It is also my plan to attend more
chats during this coming week, tomorrow Sunday at this hour, and
Tuesday, and hopefully more days too.
[Stepping
up the sessions leading up to her predicted pole shift?
By her own Zeta accuracy the internet and
communications should be none existent by now due to
the lack of satellites in our obit, (them falling out of the sky
like flies and all.) Guess we can chalk this
one up to Nancy's bloopers.
[23:37]
<NancyHere> For those asking about elevation, safe. 100 miles inland
and 200 feet up general guide.
[23:38]
<NancyHere> For Great Lakes etc 50 miles inlands and 100 feet above
water level.
[23:38]
<NancyHere> Please SO download the Adobe PDF on Safe Locations and
print and share with friends, or take the TOPIC where you can just link
to the locations you are interested in.
[23:38]
<NancyHere> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
or similar for mirror sites.
[23:37]
<Ptomais>
Z's: Can we expect climate changes
during the shift DUE TO METHANE GASS breaking free from under the
ocean/ice? Once in the atmosphere this methane will cause tremendous
climate changes.
[23:39]
<NancyHere> ZT to Ptomais
re Methane Gas: Methane is in pockets in FEW places, primarily in places
north where the surface has been frozen.
[23:40]
<NancyHere>
ZT: Thus, is not a concern for the world at large, though occasional
release will cause a flash, as has been occurring since 1995 and noted
in the news.
[23:40]
<NancyHere>
End ZT to Ptomais.
[23:40]
<NancyHere>
Re Iraq and the breath from the body
thing, it has not happened yet!
[23:41]
<NancyHere> I will as
usual clean up multiple script postings from the log, leaving a single
entry in.
[23:42]
<NancyHere>
I noted on Gentile last night that on Apr 29 I went to the live seismo
site and checked their database for Apr 29.
[23:43]
<NancyHere>
Found 9 quakes over 5+ Richter and
reported to May 2 chat as a SIGN. I actually dropped about 2-3 5+ quakes
for each taken to keep it clean, so really about 25-35 quakes.
[23:43]
<NancyHere> NEIC database
shows only 4 FOUR! quakes over 5+ Richter for that date! This is how
they underreport! No wonder the live seismo site was taken down and is
now reporting very odd data.
[23:44]
<NancyHere> Probably the
seismo is connected to a jiggling toy connected to a PC or some such :-)
[23:42]
<karmie>
Nancy: what about the US volcanos - when will Mammoth blow?
[23:44]
<NancyHere>
Karmie, some bit effect like Mammoth,
and imploding buildings in the stretch zone, will occur during the week
of rotation stoppage.
[23:45] <NancyHere>
The core wants to keep moving, the crust resists as the Atlantic Rift is
locked, the earth moans, so stress is HUGE!
[23:45]
<NancyHere>
Lauea, you should research what a
Richter 9 can do, and hurricane force winds.
[23:46]
<NancyHere> I looked in a
book I have, Peace of Mind in Earthquake Country produced in Cal after
the 7.9 quake in 1989 for San Francisco.
[23:46]
<NancyHere>
This has lots of pics of what side or
verticle trusts, lands slides, etc do to buildings.
[23:47]
<NancyHere> Apparently the
1906 was over 8+ and buildings on rock stood.
[23:47]
<NancyHere>
They received a single jolt, not
jiggling.
[23:47]
<NancyHere>
But there will be HURRICANE WINDS
also during this hour, giving the following scenarios.
[23:48]
<NancyHere> 1. first we
have winds, up to 150 or so max, 2. then with the winds not stopping we
have a Richter 9 jolt, moving the structures INTO the winds, in this
direction,
[23:49]
<NancyHere>
3. this jolt will through many structures off their foundations, their
pinnings, so the wind can push them BACK and catch on snags.
[23:49]
<NancyHere> 4. the structures,
belly to the wind at this point, will be rolled end over end,
potentially, for the next hour until the winds subside.
[23:50]
<NancyHere> So, it is the bad combo of winds and quakes that creates
a situation of danger. If you hide in your basement, consider what I've
described.
[23:50]
<NancyHere> Outside your
structure, in a low trench, avoid the possibility of the house falling
on you, shattered in some way.
[23:51]
<NancyHere> I think I caught
up with the Q's, thanks ops, no need for +m now.
[23:52]
<NancyHere> I will be here
tomorrow, this hour, and Tuesday May 19 also, this hour, my plan.
[23:52]
<QueenVee>
wonderful
[Oooooh
Queen's excited now.]
[23:53]
<NancyHere> No KROQ interview scheduled by Jay calls me suddenly so
may happen.
[And
how is he going to communicate to Nancy or transmit to the audiences if
planet X is approaching?]
[23:54]
<NancyHere> Afterwards, in
gloomier days, few crops, they wandered looking for better places.
[23:55]
<NancyHere> Starvation was
high, illness high, but after a couple decades things improved and they
tried to start over again, re civilization.
[23:56]
<NancyHere> For those asking
about long day, long night, this is in the pole shift section. The
Atlantic Rift is facing the approaching Planet X, which is a bit to the
south and right side of the Sun.
[23:56]
<NancyHere> Thus, for the West
Coast of US, barely dawn, for Europe, just past noon, etc.
[23:57]
<NancyHere> In China, a long
night, big time.
[23:58]
<NancyHere> Those with resources wanting to help others should start
thinking about the orphans IN THEIR AREA, the orphans that will be found
wandering broken, abandoned, etc after the shift and probably well
before as parents abandon them.
[23:58]
<NancyHere>
Put your heart and funds and efforts
THERE, to be rewarded in Heaven, etc for your big hearts!
[23:59]
<NancyHere>
Mostly, children, little children,
need to feel the adults around them have a plan, are calm.
[23:59]
<NancyHere>
They don't care that they don't have
fancy clothing, etc., they want to see a plan in the eyes of the adults
around them.
[00:00]
<NancyHere> Give
frightened childen tasks to do, and tell them, here's the plan! Along,
of course, with a big hug frequently!
[00:00]
<NancyHere>
It is the hour, and I will return
tomorrow this time! Thanks you ops for this last minute scramble, which
worked!!
[00:00]
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