" Do you have your bottled water? Your baby chicks? Your beans and rice? Your vitamin C? Your camping gear? Your escape route from the city planned?
No? THEN GETY CRACKING!"

Nancy Lieder

Three days to rotational stoppage, nine days to poleshift.

#Zetatalk_crisis 18th May, 2003

[23:13] * NancyD has joined #Zetatalk_Crisis
[23:13] <NancyD> Nancy D is Nancy L, nick as usual being used by the debunking crowd.
[23:14] <NancyD> I have some VERY interesting news pieces. Let me go get ...
[23:18] <NancyD> On the Planet X Sighting Team page, new additions http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[23:18] <NancyD> May17/2003 Sightings/Photos include: 1. Sunset reports rogue/nancy85.htm 2. Midday reports (3 PM) rogue/nancy86.htm 3. Sunset in Florida, two days in a row, showing tail and all rogue/nancy87.htm and rogue/nancy88.htm 4. Midday from Honolulu 11 AM rogue/nancy90.htm 5. SOHO showing the same thing as the Honolulu photo rogue/nancy89.htm
[23:19] <NancyD> PLEASE NOTE: The SOHO is showing the same double helix that the NC photo from Kid A showed!
[But Nancy Kid A photo was a fake.]
[23:19] <NancyD> Also, the SOHO message/discussion board was DOWN, for the first time in memory, after the was captured by the general public. Either too much posting or postings being edited/moderated.
[So was Zetatalk for several days, was that planet X too?]
[23:20] <NancyD> Also, note that we are not only getting photos and sighings at sunset or dawn, but edging toward midday (11 AM, 3 PM) for both naked eye and as captured by the camera.
[23:21] <NancyD> In any case, that the SOHO shows Px so clearly, with dust cloud, corpus, double helix of moon swirls behind, is solid proof to my thinking.
[23:21] <NancyD> More news let me go get ...
[23:22] <NancyD> From NOAA Space Environment Center, Space Weather Office “The Center issued the following service message at 23:17 05/14/03 The GOES 10 energetic proton detectors are showing intermittent, high noise levels in the higher energy proton channels (greater than about 80 MeV). This problem was first noticed in data taken April 26, 2003. “
[23:23] <NancyD> I think this was the same project dear tunnel vision Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy worked on, ah, poetic justice!
[And we are to derive what from this?]
[23:23] <NancyD> More news, I am going to get ...
[23:24] <NancyD> Is this on the news? From email, reportedly on the USGS web site "The volcanic activity in the North Pacific is getting more violent and there are reports of tsunamies in the region. The USGS is reporting that an underwater island has risen to the surface and that the waters surrounding various islands have receded by more than 2 feet. You may want to check this out to verify it. I got the information off of Godlike Productions this morn
[23:24] <NancyD> Now, North Pacific islands are likely the Hawaii chain, which the Zetas said WOULD get more supporting land layers pushed under the island so the volcanoes would ooze, not explode, and this seems to confirm!
[23:24] <NancyD> Zetas RIGHT Again!
[Well that would be a first.]
[23:25] <NancyD> Many in our locale, which is center of an earthquake plate, have noticed that all seem to be dragging, no pep, odd caught, etc.
[23:26] <NancyD> We are under a low, but this is extreme.
[23:26] <NancyD> Anyone else noticing fatigue and the like?

[23:26] <Zetawolf> Will it be the 20th or 21st when the sun sets roughly 2 hours late?
[23:27] <NancyD> ZetaWolf, the 20th is a 2-3 hour late sunset, for China etc a 2-3 hour sunrise on 21st.
[23:27] <NancyD> On the 21st, rotation stops when the Atlantic Rift faces the approaching Planet X
[23:28] <NancyD> New land emerges and nearby islands find they are 2 feet higher COMMON? I doubt it.

[23:21] <ranier> NancyD: does the president of the Philippines know about it thats why shes in the United States now?
[23:29] <NancyD> Adressing Ranier Q re Philipines Pres being in US, etc.
[23:29] <NancyD> ZT: Indeed, there is also a shuffle with Sharon, who has canceled a planned visit so as NOT to be away from his country when the shit hits the fan.
[23:30] <NancyD> ZT: You will find, by watching the actions of those in power, your confirmation that they knew!
[23:30] <NancyD> End ZT on this, going for next Valid Q

[23:18] <geminiguy> winter sun can also refer to a sun that rises 8:00 as oppossed to 6:00
[23:31] <NancyD> Implied Q from Gemini re operation Winter Sun and whatever happened to TOPOFF, etc.
[23:32] <NancyD> ZT: As expected, the terrorist exercises have spawned arms, tentacles, and need little explanation as TOPOFF had such strong coverage.
[23:32] <NancyD> ZT: Was this in the original plan? Not as announced, but expect MANY such to pop up as the days approach rotation stoppage, as this is when the riots and looting are expected to explode.
[23:32] <NancyD> End ZT on this, going for next valid Q
[But the excersises are nothing more than the stablisments playing games and fairly harmless role playing at best. No heavy handed stuff, mainly terrorist scinario's.]

[23:26] <Tau87> Nancy, a question for the Zetas... how close to reality is the Matrix, as portraying reality as being an illusion of sorts pulled over our minds to blind us from the truth. This seems like it could relate to third versus fourth density, etc. Is our "schoolyard" really a kind of simulation like the Matrix?
[23:33] <NancyD> Saw Tau87 statement that Indonesia had declared martial law! True? I will take his answer when I am done combing for valid Q's
 

[23:33] <NancyD> To Zoo, re public announcements by govmts.
[23:34] <NancyD> ZT: We are disappointed to find that even Sweden has gotten cold feet, and in fact NONE of the countries we hoped would champion the news to the people appear to be on track, nor likely to happen.
[23:35] <NancyD> ZT: This is a direct result of the HEAVY coverup in powerful and militaristic countries like the US, Russia, and Britain, with Sweden fearing retaliation if they led the charge.
[23:35] <NancyD> End ZT on this matter, going for more valid Q
[Could this be because there is no planet X?]

[23:21] <Avian> You said NASA was keeping things from us. Why would they post a picture of planet x?
[23:36] <NancyD> Re the SOHO if NASA is part of the coverup.
[23:36] <NancyD> Q from Avian
[23:37] <NancyD> ZT: NASA as we mentioned when the Mars images showing in infrared that villages, with streets and conduits for running water, were clearly visible on Mars occured, a slipup that Hoagland quickly took advantage of.
[23:37] <NancyD> ZT: We stated at that time that such slips would increase, due to several factors.
[23:38] <NancyD> ZT: 1 there is resentment at NASA against the dismissive manner they are being treated, by arrogance that knows no limit in the White House.
[23:38] <NancyD> ZT: 2. they are distracted, realizing that the White House has NO plans to care for NASA employees or their families, and would leave them to drown in Houston without a thought while they rushed to their bunkers.
[23:39] <NancyD> ZT: Thus, such slips as allowing a SOHO to reel to the public, actually showing Planet X as it appeared in the NC Double Helix photo, were not by design by by oversight.
[23:39] <NancyD> End ZT on this, going for more ...
[And NASA employees in the know are just going to work anyway, despite knowing this beast is coming, instead of heading for the hills or spending their last remaining days with loved ones.]

[23:26] <ZooSpecim> whats being refered to in the soho image, the blur at the end of the sun rays or the dots a little further out?
[23:40] <NancyD> ZOO re SOHO:
[23:41] <NancyD> ZT: Planet X is not alongside the Sun, nor placed anywhere near it, as what is shown in the SOHO is a PERSONA, light rays, only.
[23:41] <NancyD> ZT: Planet X is out beyond Earth, below the Ecliptic and approaching the Sun and Earth.
[23:41] <NancyD> ZT: Please consider that the SOHO is in fact an imprint of light rays, close to Earth on a satellite above the atmosphere.
[23:42] <NancyD> ZT: The light rays coming into the SOHO plates found competition from Planet X, light rays coming in from that particular direction from Planet X.
[23:43] <NancyD> ZT: Thus, where it appears that the solar flare is scattering, bumping into Planet X which is an arms length away, this is only an illusion.
[23:43] <NancyD> ZT: What is in fact occurring is a battle of light rays, competition for dominance on the SOHO plate!
[23:43] <NancyD> End ZT on this matter, going to check for more ..

[23:26] <FullMoon2> Does the government plan to eliminate prison inmates as rumored?
[23:44] <NancyD> Q from FullMoon re prisons.
[23:44] <NancyD> ZT: Prisoners have been considered both a blessing and a curse by those who are aware of the coming shift and hoped to ESCAPE to Mars.
[23:45] <NancyD> ZT: Since they are clearly doomed to stay on Earth, the focus moved to where there might be safety - underground, on ships at sea, or in elite enclaves well guarded.
[23:46] <NancyD> ZT: Close inspection of their plans and the likely quake damage ruled out going underground, and recent high waves and the unpredictibility of water have made made land creatures leary of going to sea, in submarines or otherwise.
[23:47] <NancyD> ZT: Elite enclaves well guarded by military or mercenaries seemed like the best deal, but as we, with our impecible track record on predictions, kept pointing out that mercenaries would have no reason not to TURN on their masters, they reconsidered this also.
[23:47] <NancyD> ZT: Thus, at this late hour, the elite are thinking of themselves almost like the general populace, hoping for community involvment, and support!
[23:48] <NancyD> ZT: There have been individual plans, like that of the Sr. Bush, who saw prisons opening to become a horde of STS from Texas, reaping souls for the STS which he long ago thew his lot in with.
[23:49] <NancyD> ZT: But he does not LEAD the elite in the US, and thus the overwhelming concensus is to keep the prisons locked, so prisoners drown in Texas, where many are housed, or die from lack of food or crushed structures.
[23:49] <NancyD> ZT: Who would let prioners out, when the keys are lost, the doors jammed, and all worried about injuried loved ones elsewhere?
[23:50] <NancyD> ZT: Thus, this is a likely outcome, in theUS.
[23:50] <NancyD> End ZT on this and going for more valid Q's

[23:28] <LiteBeing> I have also notiiced that the sun is setting further north and rising further south
[23:51] <NancyD> Q by LiteBeing re sun setting north, rising south, etc. Others have mentioned this to me also.
[23:51] <NancyD> ZT: This is an illusion, not a placement or angle of tip of the Earth issue.
[23:52] <NancyD> ZT: Recall when halos around the Moon emerged, odd effects in the atmosphere, and we predicted MORE such odd atmospheric matters.
[23:52] <NancyD> ZT: The Auroras also, coming closer to the Equator.
[23:53] <NancyD> ZT: The light from the Sun goes through your atmosphere, but before it even GETS there it is affected by many factors.
[23:53] <NancyD> ZT: Thus,we are telling you that your location in the solar system is the same, your inclination the same, and light illusions galore happening.
[23:53] <NancyD> End ZT on this, yet one more pass for valid Q's

[23:55] <NancyD> ZT to general Q's re compass, satellites, ability to have chats, etc.
[23:55] <NancyD> ZT: Magnetic confusion will indeed become astonishing during the week of rotation stoppage.
[23:56] <NancyD> ZT: You can expect you compasses to attempt to work as usual for no more than 4 days from today.
[23:56] <NancyD> ZT: Satellites are already getting so much noise that they falter, and the massive number of them put up to disguise this failure rate will not matter as ALL will fail.
[23:57] <NancyD> ZT: This will first be noticed where air transmission occurs - radio, cell phones, and satellite bump from one place to another.
[23:57] <NancyD> ZT: Land lines will sustain longer, until the week of rotation stoppage causes snapping of lines that do not get repaired.
[23:58] <NancyD> ZT: Of course, the broken link rule will apply, as humans will begin to get SO distracted and feel SO ill that they will not attend to work, nore care.
[23:58] <NancyD> End ZT on this, you can release as I will be saying bye for the hour.
[23:59] <NancyD> Folks, I find I can attend TOMORROW also, Monday, as well as Tuesday, and if Wednesday supports a chat then hopeully then too!
[23:59] <MikeO> God bless you for all you've done, Nancy
[Oh yes Nancy, thank you for maintaining this charade for so long, turning us insignificant, self opinionated and wholly biased nobody's into
momentary self-important, jumped up dictators able to manipulate and bully so many innocent, believing members while it lasted.]
[23:59] <NancyD> This is given that all remains the same at my house, internet connection, etc. and no one arresting me for terrorism or whatever :-).
[00:00] <NancyD> Do you have your bottled water? Your baby chicks? Your beans and rice? Your vitamin C? Your camping gear? Your escape route from the city planned?
[00:00] <NancyD> No? THEN GETY CRACKING!

[Now this is direct incitement to waste money and destroy your present life, basically the crux of what most will blame Nancy for.]
[00:01] <NancyD> Bye for toady and the best to all of your, especially thanks to the ops who arranged this channel!

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Only days away from rotational stoppage and Nancy is talking about conspiracies, which are pointless compared with the impending Poleshift. Perhaps she would explain why she's still working at this late hour when money will have no use in just over a week's time. Could it be she doesn't totally believe even herself?

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