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“Jeremy
is such a two-faced asshole sucks up to the debunkers on the one hand,
and smiles to Nancy to her face makes me sick”
QueenVee It
would seem QueenVee is manoeuvring to take over as Nancy’s favourite
and control both the Poleshiftdiscussion and Zetatalk IRC chat. Using
bullyboy and deliberate dissent directed against Nancy’s own tt-moderators
to gain the upper hand. (Watch out TT and Jan you could be next.) Session
Start: Sun Jan 26 00:00:00 2003 Session
Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion [14:57]
<Tizza>
obany : werent you mod yesterday? were you just trying to be nice to
silk and co.? [14:59]
<QueenVee>
Tizza: that was obany being "tough" with silk and co.... [14:59]
<Tizza>
he allowed them to disrupt nearly the entire sesh [14:59]
<QueenVee>
yep [14:59]
<QueenVee>
have to agree with you there [15:00]
<Tizza>
i think a lot of us r getting damn sick and tired of those wankers in
our chats ..cant we just outright ban them for good? [15:01]
<QueenVee>
have to also agree with you there [15:02]
<obany>
QueenVee: it seems that way
[15:02]
<obany>
Tizza: uuh i banned howmo for most of the session [15:03]
<obany>
but then he returned later on as howmo2 [15:03]
<QueenVee>
obany: how come i manage to keep them out of my sessions? [15:04]
<Tizza>
ob: yes i saw that, you prob should have kicked silk too [15:04]
<obany>
QueenVee: they don't consider this chat important enough to talk about
the magnitude thing etc, that's why they don't join in [15:04]
<QueenVee>
obany: i ban people left and right [15:04]
<QueenVee>
some have stopped coming because they know they can't get past me [15:04]
<Tizza>
queen : yes we know :):) [15:04]
<QueenVee>
i just don't buy it obany [15:05]
<QueenVee>
if you're SO CERTAIN that it can't be done, then why don't you let me
moderate a session on a trial basis? [15:05]
<Tizza>
we may pay you out about it occasionaly but it is good for people to
know not to screw around [15:05]
<obany>
Queeenvee: well silk asked a question that got accepted .. and no [15:06]
<QueenVee>
so stop being dishonest about it [15:06]
<obany>
i am not being dishonest queenvee [15:07]
<QueenVee>
then what do you call it? [15:07]
<Tizza>
SETTLE DOWN THERE YOU KIDS!! [15:07]
<obany>
#zetatalk is just a different channel, different kind of questions ...
and
loitus is still banned there
[15:07]
<QueenVee>
so? [15:08]
<Tizza>
not hard to see why [15:08]
<obany>
if you want to ban someone from aol .. you have to ban the whole ISP [15:08]
<QueenVee>
oh, give me a break [15:08]
<obany>
i am not going to argue with you about this queen [15:08]
<QueenVee>
the only thing DIFFERENT about the channel is that you allow people to
be rude and abusive [15:08]
<QueenVee>
just be honest about it [15:09]
<QueenVee>
apparently you and jeremy think it's entertaining or something [Jeremy
is Jeremy Rogers new Zeta recruit from the UK, moderator with obany on
the Zetatalk IRC.] [15:09]
<obany>
i am HONEST ... and no Queen you are wrong [15:09]
<obany>
i have a whole different opinion about banning then Jeremy has [15:09]
<QueenVee>
oh, okay, then Jeremy thinks its entertaining and doesn't allow you to
ban as you'd like [15:10]
<obany>
NO queen you are dead wrong about this
[15:10]
<Tizza>
sorry obany...you have been doing a good job...but the howls of the
"debunkers" is only going to get louder from now on...i think
we need to get tougher in order for the correct info to get out there [15:10]
<QueenVee>
Jeremy is such a two-faced asshole [15:10]
<QueenVee>
sucks up to the debunkers on the one hand, and smiles to nancy to her
face [15:10]
<QueenVee>
makes me sick [15:10]
<QueenVee>
Tizza: it's not going to change as long as obany and Jeremy are in
charge there [15:11]
<QueenVee>
we've been through this so many times [15:11]
<obany>
QueenVee: you are so wrong about me so wrong [15:11]
<Jurian>
QueenVee: then plan a revolution :) [Jurian
is Jurian van der Knaap former tt-inc member, owner of the Zetatalk IRC
who quit due to his own lack of belief, and then later banned Nancy from
a recent chat he was moderating due to sexual innuendo and slander
against silk, (aka Sarah MC from sci-astro.] Making Jurian another true
hypocrite. [15:11]
<Tizza>
i have noticed that lately (not knowing last history with jeremy) [15:11]
<QueenVee>
oh, and there's Jurian, offering helpful solutions as usual [15:11]
<Ogmios>
wrong? [15:12]
<QueenVee>
it's nancy's fault as well, because she continues to go along with it [15:12]
<Jurian>
QueenVee: as long as nancy doesn't ask me to change the moderators, i
wont [15:12]
<QueenVee>
she emailed me recently asking what could be done about it; i told her,
and she chose to not take my advice. so what can you do? [15:13]
<Jurian>
altho I do agree that the sessions are being more and more useless [15:13]
<Jurian>
yes, and pathetic [15:13]
<QueenVee>
but apparently obany and jeremy don't think so [15:14]
<Jurian>
sadly, my internet connection dropped dead halfway during the sesison
last night, so I couldn't even see how bad things got this time [15:14]
<obany>
QueenVee: stop making assumptions about me...... [15:14]
<Jurian>
obany: it has NOTHING to do with assumptions [15:14]
<Jurian> its a damn mess in #zetatalk [15:14]
<QueenVee>
obany: they are conclusions based on your behaviour [15:14]
<Jurian>
and only YOU, and jeremy, can change that [15:15]
<QueenVee>
the two of you are holding those sessions hostage by refusing to do what
needs to be done [15:15]
<obany>
Jurian: i know, hence i banned that howmo during the chat, banned loitus,
and have been called a fagot by him in a private message [15:15]
<Jurian>
you'll be called a lot worse [15:15]
<Jurian>
stop caring [15:15]
<obany>
i know Jurian
[15:16]
<obany>
and he still banned [15:16]
<Jurian>
stop letting them make you angry by talking about you [15:16]
<Jurian>
ban them, permanently, not just for a few minutes [15:16]
<Jurian> no mercy [15:17]
<obany>
there are some bans still in place [15:18]
<QueenVee>
obany: they will say nasty things about you no matter what you do, so
why not do the right and best thing then? why are you making it about
you? [15:19]
<obany>
QueenVee: i have been called a lot worse ... there is a stupid story
about me on the web in Dutch ... [15:19]
<obany>
i have been called a scienntology member etc etc [15:19]
<QueenVee>
obany: why do you obssess about it so much? who cares? [15:19]
<Tizza>
hahah kool [15:20]
<Tizza>
i gota go...the folks are coming to visit..still trying to decide wether
to discuss this with em or not [15:20]
<obany>
QueenVee: as i said you are wrong about me [15:20]
<Tizza>
and havent done the dishes yet....lol [15:20]
<Tizza>
cya all [15:21]
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<QueenVee>
obany: then prove it [15:22]
<obany>
proof what? [15:23]
<obany>
i don't want to turn this into a endless discussion about who is wrong
and who is right [15:23]
<QueenVee>
obany: you're making it that, we're just giving you the facts [15:23]
<QueenVee>
the facts you keep ignoring [15:23]
<QueenVee>
the problem you keep ignoring [15:23]
<QueenVee>
you don't think there's a problem? [15:24]
<obany>
you think that i ignore the facts... so stop saying things about
me... [15:24]
<obany> sigh [15:24]
<Jurian>
you ARE ignoring facts [15:24]
<Jurian>
and that has NOTHING to do with knowing you or not [15:25]
<obany>
the facts, that i should ban in a better manner ... [15:25]
<walt>
"cant we all just get along" : ) [15:26]
<QueenVee>
obany: STOP MAKING IT ABOUT YOU PERSONALLY [15:26]
<QueenVee>
its not about you personally [15:26]
<QueenVee>
it's about how the sessions are run [15:26]
<QueenVee> when you refuse to make changes no matter how many
times people point out how ridiculous the sessions are getting, THAT'S
when people start drawing conclusions about you.... [15:26]
<QueenVee> what alternative do we have? [15:27]
<QueenVee> you don't provide any rational explanation for not
making changes [15:30]
<obany>
well just don't think that i am with one mind with Jeremy. And i know
the soft aproach doesn't work [15:30]
<obany>
but #zetatalk is not #poleshiftdiscussion [15:30]
<QueenVee>
so? [15:30]
<QueenVee> what does that have to do with anything? [15:31]
<QueenVee> you never address the issue obany [15:31]
<obany>
ooh come on, i don't want to turn this into a endless discussion [15:31]
<QueenVee>
you blame it on obany, you blame it on the channel -- you're just not
responsible, are you? [15:31]
<Jurian>
obany: you mean you dont want to discuss things.. [15:31]
<QueenVee>
you blame it on jeremy, i mean [15:31]
<Jurian>
YOU are the one making it endless [15:31]
<QueenVee>
you just don't want anybody to say anything [15:31]
<Jurian>
by constantly avoiding giving an anwer [15:32]
<QueenVee>
why not just be a man and say I THINK THE SESSIONS ARE JUST FINE THE WAY
THEY ARE [15:32]
<obany>
i already got tougher yesterday ... in the session .. so i should turn
into a fucking dictator next week ? [15:32]
<QueenVee>
but YOU WEREN'T TOUGH yesterday [15:33]
<QueenVee> you just think you were [15:33]
<QueenVee> you go from 5% to 10% and think you've gone to 90% [15:33]
<QueenVee> you need to be at 90% [15:33]
<QueenVee> and then the next week you're back to 5% [15:33]
<obany>
you know that i tolerate more then you ... that's me.. my personality [15:34]
<QueenVee>
so, again, this is about YOU [15:34]
<QueenVee>
this is about what's best for YOU [15:34]
<QueenVee>
not what's best for the sessions [15:34]
<obany>
no queenvee, what's best for the sessions
[15:34]
<obany>
now [15:34]
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<QueenVee>
people are telling you that your toleration is ruining the sessions [15:34]
<Jurian>
run like a baby [15:34]
<QueenVee>
he needs therapy [Good
one Queen and you don’t need therapy I suppose? You might after May
though.] [15:35]
<Jurian>
no shit [15:35]
<Jurian>
he was going to come along with me, to sweden, but he chickened out the
last week [15:35]
<Jurian>
without saying why [15:35]
<QueenVee>
well, like i said, those #zetatalk sessions are like one long S&M
show.... [15:35]
<QueenVee>
really. that's interesting. [15:36]
<walt>
why does nancy do them? [15:36]
<QueenVee>
ya got me [15:36]
<walt>
the chats could be done in an invite only chat room [15:36]
<QueenVee>
walt: we've laid out all the alternatives to nancy, she won't
"fire" the moderators [15:36]
<QueenVee>
period [15:36]
<QueenVee>
and the moderators won't resign [15:36]
<QueenVee>
period [15:37]
<QueenVee>
DEADLOCK [Queen
want’s to rule the roost and making it very obvious just like Jan did
on TT.] [15:37]
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<QueenVee>
hello Freddo [15:37]
<walt>
wonder why : ) [15:37]
<Jurian>
luckily, I can fire the mods :p [15:37]
<QueenVee>
walt: any theories? [15:37]
<QueenVee>
Jurian: no, you can't [15:37]
<walt>
I think she likes the controversy [15:37]
<Jurian>
just need to be sure the majority of people want new mods [15:37]
<QueenVee>
walt: like i said, S&M [15:37]
<Freddo>
hi queen [15:37]
<walt>
she keeps going back and posting on Sci.astro [15:38]
<QueenVee>
Jurian: REALLY? [Brain’s
ticking now as she plays with the idea.] [15:38]
<walt>
thats where most of the debunkers are from [15:38]
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ChanServ sets mode: +o obany [15:38]
<QueenVee>
Jurian: so, if we took a survey and that's what everyone voted, you
coudl do that? [You
can practically hear the thought process working now, but then obany
upsets that train.] [15:38]
<walt>
yet she keeps going back [15:38]
<Jurian>
sure! [15:38]
<Jurian>
votes are good [15:39]
<obany>
what is this about now? [15:39]
<QueenVee>
we're still trying to find a solution to the problem obany [15:39]
<QueenVee> you can join in if you want [15:42]
<obany>
sigh
[15:42]
<obany>
just got a private message from sapph [Sapphire
is skepticalmind.com, the dreaded enemy.] [15:42]
<Jurian>
he still loves you? :) [15:42]
<obany>
yes :)
[15:45]
<obany>
so how does he know that we are talking about this? [15:46]
<QueenVee>
about what? [15:46]
<obany>
about #zetatalk
[15:46]
<Jurian>
he must be an illuminati, he has an all-seeing eye [15:47]
<QueenVee>
he's probably in here under a different nick -- who cares? [15:48]
<QueenVee>
no [15:48]
<Jurian>
nope, can't hide unless the channel is set +D like #zetatalk [15:48]
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Looking up raincityAFK user info... [15:52]
<QueenVee>
OKAY, ANNOUNCEMENT: [15:53]
<QueenVee>
YOU CAN NO LONGER BE IN THIS CHANNEL IF YOU ARE ALSO LOGGED IN #TROUBLED_TIMES
AT THE SAME TIME [15:54]
<Jurian>
Time for me to go sleep [15:54]
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.dialsprint.net [15:55]
<Ogmios>
not so terrible interested about tt..ppl just idle there [15:55]
<QueenVee>
exactly [QueenVee
has just booted everyone in case they’re listening and recording the
conversation, but failed miserably, better luck next time. [15:55]
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<obany>
QueenVee: let me for a moment please ...
[15:56]
<QueenVee>
obany: obviously you are excepted [15:56]
<QueenVee>
sorry, i should have made that clear [15:56]
<ChanServ>
and me? :p [15:57]
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<inkpen>
slu [15:57]
<QueenVee>
slu? [15:57]
<inkpen>
French [15:57]
<QueenVee>
hiya inkpen [15:57]
<inkpen>
HELLO [15:57]
<QueenVee>
french? [15:57]
<inkpen>
jah [15:58]
<inkpen>
means hello [15:58]
<QueenVee>
indeed? [15:58]
<inkpen>
at least that what i picked up when i talked to someone who spoke it on
irc [15:59]
<QueenVee>
French slang no doubt [15:59]
<inkpen>
heh prolly [15:59]
<QueenVee>
like sup [15:59]
<inkpen>
both 3 letter words :) [15:59]
<QueenVee>
gotta love em [16:00]
<inkpen>
how were the sessions yesterday ? [16:00]
<QueenVee>
the usual [16:00]
<QueenVee> the #zetatalk ones get worse and worse [16:00]
<QueenVee> like a live S&M show [16:00]
<inkpen>
heh [16:01]
<inkpen>
there are lots who take it as amusement [16:01]
<QueenVee>
seriously, i feel like i'm watching the Jerry Springer show [16:01]
<QueenVee> it's sick [16:01]
<inkpen>
ya [16:01]
<QueenVee>
i wanna take a shower after [16:01]
* Terminal was kicked by QueenVee (Terminal) [16:01]
<inkpen>
no kidding [16:02]
<inkpen>
who was that guy? [16:02]
<QueenVee>
oh, he's a new guy from Australia [16:02]
<inkpen>
ah [16:02]
<inkpen>
its super bowl Sunday [16:02]
<QueenVee>
someone in here has been posting conversations from this channel into #troubled_times.... [And
you can’t have that now can you, someone might tell Nancy and you’d
be out on your arse like those who tried before you?] [16:02]
<inkpen>
!! [16:02]
<inkpen>
what?! [16:02]
<QueenVee>
so i have a new rule: you can't sit in both channels at the same time [16:02]
<inkpen>
why? [16:03]
<inkpen>
ok [16:03]
<QueenVee>
just a control
mechanism [16:03]
<QueenVee>
i mean, anyone who belongs in here sure ain't gonna miss being in #troubled_times ------o------ A
control method from a control freak. I think we should re-name her
Queenbee as she’s obviously after taking over the whole hive. (And she
has the cheek to call Jeremy for being two faced. Nancy need only turn
up and Queen-baby practically kisses her arse. ) QueenVee
the hypocrite Session
Start: Sat Feb 01 11:52:07 2003 Session
Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion [12:28]
<QueenVee>
WELCOME NANCY! [12:28]
<NancyL>
ANNOUNCEMENT: This coming Tuesday, 2/4 Nancy will be on live radio: [12:28]
<NancyL>
KSNA out of Arkansas at 8:00 AM Central Time for 2 hours [12:28]
<NancyL> KROQ out of Los Angeles at 8:30 AM Pacific Time (LA's
largest morning show) [12:29]
<QueenVee>
COOL [12:31]
<QueenVee>
are you ready for questions, nancy? [13:02]
<QueenVee>
ready for next question, nancy? [13:15]
<QueenVee> ready for next question, nancy? [13:16]
<QueenVee>
last question, i should say.... [13:37]
<QueenVee>
Unfortunately, that's the hour, so Nancy has to go. Another great
session, Nancy. Thank you! ------o------ Yes
sir, no sir, three bags full sir…. Hardly the same outspoken little
bully when in Nancy’s presence, as can be seen nearly every week on
the official, Zetatalk/poleshiftdiscussion IRC chat. Session
Start: Sun Jan 26 00:00:00 2003 Session
Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion [14:18]
<Richard>
listen to this tho Queen [14:19]
<Richard>
that is part of what I'm gonna tell you obany [14:19]
<Richard>
a few weeks back he said that pravda was a sentionlism paper when
someone mentioned the same article that I did [14:19]
<Richard>
about inbound asteroid [14:20]
<Richard>
so I posted my 1st message to his newsgroup about the neuman prediction
and Pravda [14:20]
<Richard>
correlating [14:20]
<Richard>
never said a word, not a beep about it on his site [14:21]
<Richard>
but yesterday a number of messages appeared from people saying they are
fed up with 'doom merchants/ [14:21]
<Richard>
strange!!!!!! [14:22]
<QueenVee>
yes, very strange [14:22]
<Richard>
the zeta's got mentioned once in his forum and he said the zetatalk site
was not to be mentioned again in his forum [14:22]
<Richard>
strange!!!!!! [14:22]
<QueenVee>
did he say why? [14:23]
<Richard>
no [14:23]
<QueenVee>
well, that's rather dictatorial and unreasonable ------o------ Dictatorial
and unreasonable does she really have any idea what those terms mean?
What a hypocrite? Talk about the blind leading the blind.
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