"if this happens again, I will refuse to let this

show continue on my network"

Jurian van der Knaap

 

 

To sort out some of the labelling:

 

NancyL = Nancy Lieder

Clipper  = Clipper (TT-Posse Sheriff.)

Jwilliam = J W Dell (TT-Inc member, astronomy team TT-group.)

SteveH  = Steve Havas (TT-Inc member, astronomy team TT-group.)

Jurian  = Jurian Knapp (Former TT-Inc member, owner of IRC chat.)

Silk        = Sarah MC (sci-astro group.)

Michael Cunningham (sci-astro group.)

 

 

http://www.skepticalmind.com/zetatalk_irclogs/zetatalk.funnet.20021026.log.html

Session Start: Sat Oct 26 14:18:01 2002

Session Ident: #zetatalk

 

[16:17] <NancyL> It orbits, does not rotate, truly.

[16:17] * Silk-away has joined #zetatalk

[16:17] <Silk-away> lol

[16:18] * Silk-away is now known as Silk

[16:20] <NancyL> Sarah, you should meet up with SinthBaron, he's your type!
[16:20] <Silk> what's my type Nancy?

[16:20] <Silk> as if you would know – lol

[16:20] <NancyL> I'm sure Sinth will explain, he's been explaining in your absense.  
[16:20] <Jurian> heh, ugh, can we please not go back to the lesbian shit?
[16:21] <NancyL> Sex starved!  And trolling!  This is not a dating service folks, so please, you guys, help Sarah out as she obviously needs a date!
[16:21] * obany sets mode: -m

[16:21] <Silk> here we go, and I didn't say one thing to start it

[16:21] <Jurian> NancyL: please stop with that shit

[16:23] <NancyL> Poor Sarah hasn't figures out that divorcees have the trump card!  If attractive at all, they can get a young male lover 15 years younger as a steady!  Worked for me, and I didn't go trolling on IRC chats either, nor have lesbian obsession as poor Sarah is aflicted with.

[16:23] <Jurian> ugh, stop the goddamn sex bullshit

[16:23] <Jurian> right, that's it, this session is over

[16:23] <SinthBaron> whos sarah

[16:23] <Silk> Me

[16:23] <Silk> Nancy likes attacking me

[16:24] <Silk> because she can't answer my questions

[16:23] <SinthBaron> join the club

[16:24] <NancyL> Sinth, Sarah is apparently, she brought the subject up couple weeks ago, out of the blue!

[16:24] <Silk> Hardly Nancy

[16:24] <Jurian> NancyL: STOP

[16:24] <Silk> Thanks Jurian

[16:24] <Jurian> I don't care if you 2 don't like each other

[16:24] <jwilliam> karma ;o)

[16:24] <Jurian> this fucking shit stop right now

[16:24] <NancyL> Mb, she comes in there dressed as Silk, Velvet, and Lace and then starts talking about dating women, read the log couple weeks ago.

[16:25] <NancyL> Sad, really, and not necessary.

[16:25] <Clipper> Jurian: cussing doesn't help

[16:25] * Jurian sets mode: -o+b NancyL *!*lieder@*.baraboo.com

[16:25] * NancyL was kicked by Jurian (cya next week, loose the attitude problem)
[16:25] <Silk> Thank you

[16:25] <Jurian> this is fucking ridiculous

[16:25] <Silk> yes it is

[16:25] <Jurian> if this happens again, I will refuse to let this show continue on my network

[16:26] <Silk> Jurian, if it helps, I'll stay off

[16:26] <Jurian> its still my network

[16:26] <Jurian> and I will not allow this stupid insulting shit

[16:26] * Jurian sets mode: -b *!*lieder@*.baraboo.com

[16:27] <Jurian> that shit happen again, and this is over

[16:27] <Silk> I'll leave, I'm not here to cause trouble

[16:27] * Silk has left #zetatalk

[16:28] <jwilliam> go placidly amid the noise and haste ... and don't forget to ..... breath

[16:27] <Pegasi71> So Nancy isnt allowed to defend hersefl? that's 'fkd up
[16:28] <Jurian> Pegasi71: its zetatalk , not nancy-insults-everyone-who-disagrees-talk
[16:28] <[3j]> jurian did you kickban ??!

[16:28] <Jurian> no

[16:28] <Jurian> nancy started that, 2 weeks ago

[16:28] <S7L> but really... did Sarah actually say anything about dating women in the irclog?

[16:29] <jwilliam> she was insinuating nancy was a lesbian

[16:29] <Mb_> Rudy:  What did Sarah do?

[16:29] <Jurian> 2 weeks ago, this started, I tolerated it then, but no more

[16:29] <Jurian> this is rediculous, personally attacking people goes too far
[16:29]
<jwilliam> i agree jurian , your call

[16:30] <Jurian> fuck it, I'm damn angry, I'm shaking *#$&)@ :)

[16:30] <Clipper> You guys do realize that the Zetas do not have to do this chat. They could stop at anytime and let you guys actually think for yourselves.
[16:30] <Jurian> Clipper: nancy also needs to realize that she cannot go spraying shit about people

[16:31] <jwilliam> I hope nancy has got it out of her system, and will be back to norm next week ;o)

[16:31] <Jurian> Clipper: how does that help the message?

[16:31] <ZooSpecimen> ...well looks like the STS won this round!

[16:31] <jwilliam> zoo: you are assuming

 [16:32] <Clipper> Didn't say it did help the message Jurian. I leave for a few months and I can see that some things don't change. If I was the contact for the Z's, I would not do the chat again.

[16:32] <Jurian> even if she is, she could be banned, there is no need for personally attacking people

[16:32] <Jurian> Clipper: well, if this happens again, you can be sure it will be the last time

[16:33] <Jurian> I find it extremely disgusting if people try to talk bad about others by calling them gay or lesbian, or whatever
[16:33] <Jurian> who gives a fuckign shit what someone's sexual preference is?

[16:33] <jwilliam> Jurian; there have been serious personal insults traded on sci.astro, it was bound to blow back

[16:34] <Jurian> jwilliam: fine, just not on any network I run

[16:34] <jwilliam> i understand

[16:34] <Jurian> zetatalk is very interesting, which is why I offered my services and let it run here

[16:34] <Jurian> but if it turns into personal attacks against people, I am done
[16:35] <jwilliam> We're moving into the climax of Zetatalks whole reason, tempers fray and pressures on

[16:35] <Jurian> Zetapal: usually they don't go too far, specially not after multiple warnings

[16:36] <Jurian> just because she is nancy, doesn't mean she doesn't have to live by the rules

[16:36] <Clipper> So ...... saying things like ....... fuck ..... shit, ect is the way a moderator should talk? Fucking cussing is okay?

[16:38] <Jurian> Clipper: cussing isn't nearly as lame as attacking someone personally, trying to make them look bad to the whole world
[16:38] <jwilliam> Jurian: I can only thank you for your support in the past, your continued fair monitoring, your actions today, and hopefully your laying down the rules to Nancy

[16:38] <Jurian> and I am probably not a good moderator, I'm just a techy offering a network

[16:38] <jwilliam> and next week we will return to a civil Q & A

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