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"Kid A is
NOT
a fake
that we can tell."
Nancy Lieder
From: "queenvee59"
<queenvee59@h...>
Date: Thu May 1, 2003 6:00 pm
Subject: "KidA" Reveals That His "North Carolina" Pic is Fake
And now, in the "Gee, What a Surprise" category, "KidA" reveals on
www.godlikeproductions.com that the "North Carolina" pic posted on
the ZetaTalk site (see http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/nancy30.htm)
as authentic is in fact a deliberate hoax.
KidA's "confession" can be found at
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?
message=35664&mpage=1&topic=3
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What's interesting about
this post is that QueenVee was present during the IRC where Nancy
verified this photo as genuine. Yet she makes no reference to this fact.
Indeed her remarks tend to indicate she had already made up her mind
about the photo, so why hasn't she questioned Nancy's statement in the
light of this new evidence? Perhaps a real indication as to the
hypocrisy shown by the Zeta faithful.
From: Jurian
van der Knaap <jurian@k...>
Date:
Fri May 2, 2003 8:37 pm
Subject:
Re: [tt-watch] "KidA" Reveals That His "North
Carolina" Pic is Fake
Haha, guess what, Steve Havas and
JWilliam, in their infinite wisdom, have
come up with the rather interesting theory that this Kid A is not the
one who posted the pic in the first place, see:
http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/nancy46.htm
As "evidence", they come up with a non-existant discrepancy in his
profile on the godlike forum. Of course his profile shows 9 posts,
wether you use the 'old' profile or the 'new' one. Do they really
believe the profile is stored per post in the forum? Hello? Reality
check? A member profile is stored ONCE in a forum database. The number
of posts is a simple counter. Make a post, counter goes up by one. The
profile isn't linked to a particular post, instead, all the posts are
linked to the one profile. It doesn't matter how you are going to view
that profile, it will always have the same data. Is the database really
going to magically sau "oh, hey, you're looking at an old post, lets
take this counter we have, and remove.. oh.. uh.. some random number
from it" ?? Obviously not.
For the people who have a hard time believing this, have a look at the
links to Kid A's profile, on all of his postings. You'll note they are
all exactly the same link. There is NO date or anything but his member
ID number in the link.
This Kid A is the same as the original poster. (unless someone figured
out his password, but that's a whole different story). His picture is a
fake. Zeta's wrong again.
Jurian
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From:
"jakaby2002" <jakaby@m...>
Date: Fri
May 2, 2003 9:31 pm
Subject:
Re: "KidA" Reveals That His "North Carolina" Pic
is Fake
Greetings;
1) In response to Jurian comment;
Reality check? A member profile is stored ONCE in a forum database. The
number of posts is a simple counter. Make a post, counter goes up by
one. The profile isn't linked to a particular post, instead, all the
posts are linked to the one profile. It doesn't matter how you are going
to view that profile, it will always have the same data.
To clarify;
My observations on Kid A posting, which I
pointed out in my correspondence.
Kid A posted 13 times in 2 seperate threads.(count them)
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?
message=22789&topic=3
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?
message=35664&mpage=1&topic=3
The discrepancy that I brought forward, based on an observation by Steve
H, is that Kid A profile shows total posts as 9, which equals the total
posts of May 1st. (shows both on April 14 and May 1st thread profiles)
Why this discrepancy between actual posts by KID A (13) to profile post
counter (9) remains unknown.
Regards
J.William Dell
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From:
Jurian van der Knaap <jurian@k...>
Date:
Fri May 2, 2003 10:08 pm
Subject:
Re: [tt-watch] Re: "KidA" Reveals That His "North Carolina" Pic is Fake
At 20:31 2-5-2003 +0000, you wrote:
Greetings;
1) In response to Jurian comment;
Reality check? A member profile is stored ONCE in a forum
database. The number of posts is a simple
counter. Make a post, counter goes up by one.
The profile isn't linked to a particular post, instead, all
the posts are linked to the one profile. It doesn't matter how
you are going to view that profile, it will
always have the same data. To clarify;
My observations on Kid A posting, which
I pointed out in my correspondence.
Kid A posted 13 times in 2 seperate threads.
(count them)<
true.
>The discrepancy that I brought forward,
based on an observation by Steve H, is that
Kid A profile shows total posts as 9, which equals
the total posts of May 1st. (shows both
on April 14 and May 1st thread profiles)<
like I said, same profile, thus same count.
>Why this discrepancy between actual posts
by KID A (13) to profile post counter (9)
remains unknown.Regards J.William Dell<
Maybe the counter doesn't work right, or it
resets every month. Fact is, you cannot have 2 identical *registered*
usernames. All the posts by Kid A (not
counting the obvious fakes), were made by the same authenticated user.
It really doesn't matter if the counter is broken, or works oddly. It is
the same Kid A on all posts. The 'original' Kid A account did not expire
and a new one was made, or something like that, because the ID number
stays the same.
This whole idea of "this" Kid A being a fake, is rediculous.
Jurian
[Wasting your time Jurian,
J.W listens to no one.]
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From:
"queenvee59" <queenvee59@h...>
Date:
Sat May 3, 2003 1:37 am
Subject:
Re: "KidA" Reveals That His "North Carolina" Pic is Fake
This theory that it wasn't the
"real" Kid-A who made the hoax confession is silly, and a bit desperate.
The most obvious evidence that it is the same Kid-A that posted the pic
is that the alleged "original" Kid-A hasn't stepped forward to denounce
the alleged "imposter". Until that happens, commonsense requires us to
accept what "Kid-A" tells us -- and hopefully take a lesson from it.
Best,
QueenVee
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From:
"txyall" <txyall@y...>
Date:
Sat May 3, 2003 5:26 am
Subject:
Re: "KidA" Reveals That His "North Carolina" Pic
is Fake
Nobody here thought any of the
pictures were verified legit, nor did any of us think they were proof.
Also, Nancy posted the picture as being possibly legit.
As far as I know, she never asked the Zetas if any of them were legit.
She has
always stated that you have to look for yourself. The debunkers claim of
victory with the Kid A pic is highly exaggerated in order to fuel their
own arrogance and pettiness.
I would like to say that I would not trust your comments anymore than I
would trust the guy claiming to be Kid A. First, it's obvious what side
of this
issue both of you are on, and we don't know you, don't know your
backgrounds, and don't know your agendas; nor do you know his or anybody
else's. It's interesting how debunkers are so quick to trust anybody who
will fuel their flame; regardless of whether they've ever heard of them
before, or know their agenda.
On a final note, I would like to state for the record that I do not
believe everything Nancy says, and also believe that she has been off
about the viewing. However, I still believe something is going to occur.
[So why are you defending
her?]
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From:
"txyall" <txyall@y...>
Date:
Sat May 3, 2003 5:33 am
Subject:
Re: "KidA" Reveals That His "North Carolina" Pic
is Fake
> This whole idea of "this" Kid A
being a fake, is rediculous. Jurian<
I wouldn't be willing stake anything on it
either way. Do you know this
person? Do you know their agenda? Have you seen the crazy, inhumane,
insulting people and their lame threads when it comes to this issue? You
don't think someone would be capable of faking the post? Don't be so
sure
just because you want it help you in your cause.
[Do you know Nancy? Have you
met her. Do you know her agenda? Hmmmm time for a re-think I'd say.]
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From:
"txyall" <txyall@y...>
Date:
Sat May 3, 2003 5:48 am
Subject:
Re: "KidA" Reveals That His "North Carolina" Pic
is Fake
> These arguments I give can go both
ways. I'm personally tired of it all. If you are still believing even
after nothing is in the skies a scant 2 weeks before all this is
supposed to happen, and nothing else that has been prophesized to be
happening in the "7 weeks before the shift" in the writings of this
woman have happened, then you are beyond help I believe. Just don't kill
your pets for god's sake.
One more thing: This was, and still is, counted
in the collection of "Spring, 2003, Valid Recent Photos" on her site.
Note the word "Valid".
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/c2cquick.htm
Girl 101<
Admitting yours was a fake from the start
was the right thing to do in this situation. What the alleged Kid A did
and others like him are doing is wrong.
For all they know, based on the debunkers arrogant stupidity, an
individual
who was on the edge with the decision took their image seriously, sold
everything they owned and ran for the hills.
[So what s Nancy doing?
Telling everyone to head for the hills come May 15th. Talk about
hypocrisy and myopic vision.]
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From:
"txyall" <txyall@y...>
Date:
Sat May 3, 2003 5:52 am
Subject:
Re: "KidA" Reveals That His "North Carolina" Pic
is Fake
>Until
that happens, commonsense requires us to accept what "Kid-A" tells us --
and hopefully take a lesson from it. Best,
QueenVee<
Yes, look for yourself, decide for
yourself, and don't trust anyone you don't
know.
[Except Nancy of course.]
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