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" ...I have great problems seeing any valid
reasoning behind the false information. Many of the failed predictions earlier could be explained away to some degree. A missing pole shift cannot. Whatever credibility ZetaTalk and Nancy had seems now to have vanished."

Jan Rypdal
 

No rotation slowing as predicted and scant little evidence of planet stoppage and....

 

From: "Jan" <anybody@a...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2003 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-watch] Sun in same place at noon - no changes

Olli et al,

The cloud cover pulled back a little bit just for a few minutes, so I could check the sun's position at 01:15 CEST, when the position should be ~184°,
almost due South. It was exactly where it was supposed to be. When you said
the sun was a little bit to the East, did you account for the Daylight Savings Time? If not, the sun's position at noon would correctly be 15° tothe East.

I've also been wondering about the ZetaTalk information & Planet Xinformation in general, given this failure. Up until the mid-2002 visibilitypredictions & imaging failures, the information seemed to be "spot on" asNancy would say. Lately, the information has been more and more off, e.g. the prediction that the Iraqi war would not be won by the US. (I hardly
think the current difficulties in administrating Iraq qualifies.) It also seems that the doubts about the imaging has been fully justified.

I am however absolutely sure that Nancy has believed every word she hasrelayed. Having met her a number of times, I have no doubt that the ZetaTalk information is not something she makes up herself, but relays in some way. Also, as can be seen on many of her failures when in "NancyTalk" mode, she wouldn't be close to be able to make something like this up; she just hasn't the knowledge and background to be able to pull such a scam. In my younger days, I read a lot of sci-fi. If Nancy really made this all up, I would say she is the best sci-fi author ever. Especially if you compare to cult crap like Scientology, ZetaTalk comes through as an excellent story.

The ZetaTalk information about the upcoming pole shift has always been for
late May 2003. No room for any deviation, especially not after the dates were set in concrete just a few days ago. No way can ZetaTalk and Nancy recover from this. If there actually is a pole shift coming up (which seems highly unlikely now), this exercise will only have proven Aesop's fable "The Shepherd's Boy and the Wolf", and that any new date given will probably just
be ignored.
 

Whoever or whatever is behind this, I have great problems seeing any valid
reasoning behind the false information. Many of the failed predictions earlier could be explained away to some degree. A missing pole shift cannot. Whatever credibility ZetaTalk and Nancy had seems now to have vanished. I wonder how anyone could benefit from this.

Regards,
Jan

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From: DAVID STORØY <dstoroey@o...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2003 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-watch] Sun in same place at noon - no changes
 

Ja, I must say that I am totally agree with you that Nancy could not have fake the info 100 % and she is taking her source 100 % seriously. And some of the info on ZetaTalk is true - I have experienced and is experiencing some of the ZetaTalk info - as they say. But the info about Nibiru and pole-shift has been one of the info I feel could be wrong.

But Jan or other - do you think Nancy will apologise or she will come with a statement where she says that "Zetas were wrong about poleshift in may 2003"?Do you think we will have an IRC-Chat today?Channel?

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From: "Clipper Ordiway" <cannex@m...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2003 2:59 pm
Subject: RE: [tt-watch] Sun in same place at noon - no changes

>>I am however absolutely sure that Nancy has believed every word she has relayed. Having met her a number of times, I have no doubt that the ZetaTalk
information is not something she makes up herself, but relays in some way. Also, as can be seen on many of her failures when in "Nancy Talk" mode,
she wouldn't be close to be able to make something like this up; she just hasn't the knowledge and background to be able to pull such a scam.<<

I would have to agree with Jan on this one as I have also spent time with Nancy as well. No way could she come up with this without some sort of out side force. There is no "team" or group helping her with information. If the PS does not happen, she has been duped as well, plain and simple. By what, I
do not know.

Clipper

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From: "queenvee59" <queenvee59@h...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2003 3:24 pm
Subject: MESSAGE FROM NANCY LIEDER: No More ZetaTalk Sessions

EMAIL FROM NANCY LIEDER, INDICATING THAT THERE
WILL BE NO MORE IRC ZETATALK SESSIONS


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I have inserted a new page for the link from ZetaTalk home page for IRC sessions to be a statement that Live ZeatTalk IRC is no longer possible....I gave the history of the attacks we have come under, and stressed that only logs appearing on my web sites should be considered statements that Nancy Lieder has made. I don't think a lot is to be gained at this point in any case, from IRC, and was frankly amazed that we had last Sat session and two following!

Below, the new page, which links to the Logs:

-- Live ZetaTalk IRC Sessions, and even IRC channels devoted to discussion of the pole shift and earth changes, are no longer possible due to concerted efforts to disrupt them.
-- Live ZetaTalk IRC Sessions had been ongoing on the #zetatalk channel since Nov 11, 2001 on the Funnet.ORG network, with additional sessions in the #poleshiftdiscussion channel added on Nov 3, 2002.
-- In Feb, 2003 the moderator of the #poleshiftdiscussion sessions came under personal hacking attacks and abandoned the sessions.
-- By Feb 22, 2003 the #zetatalk channel had to abandon Funnet.ORG network due to concerted hacking and flooding with fake users so the servers
failed.
-- Funnet.ORG was a small network so the sessions moved to a larger network with more resiliancy, Undernet.ORG.
-- Going into the May 16, 2003 session it was apparent that the new #zetatalk channel on Undernet.ORG had been hijacked, the valid operators removed and debunkers fully in charge, others assuming the identity of Nancy.
-- Yet another channel, #zetatalk_crisis, was mustered and a Live ZeatTalk IRC Session was held on May 16, and the following two days.
-- By May 20, 2003 this new #zetatalk_crisis channel also was hijacked, again only debunkers in charge. It appears that IRC sessions are no longer possible. Please be aware that unless a log is appearing in the Logs of past sessions, comments made by others under the name of NancyL or any other claim to be
Nancy are invalid and a debunking technique.

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But still they support their glorious "lieder" which is of course no great surprise.
 

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