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".....Troubled Times mailing lists, like tt-watch, are also NOT a nonprofit operation whatsoever."

Nancy Lieder

 

 

Nancy has now reverted back to the TT-lists (tt-watch) to post her material as all other sources appear to have been exhausted. (A poor state of affairs for a group she has openly stated in the past to be full of wingers and whiners.)

 

From: "nancylieder" <zetatalk@z...>
Date: Sun Jun 15, 2003 9:20 pm
Subject: Slowing Rotation (4-5 Minutes Today)

SLOWING ROTATION
The Zetas recently clarified the best way to watch for slowing minutes, to gain that extra few days of notice. They stated long ago:

"But there will be a point in time, a few days ahead of when rotation stops, when this will get blatantly obvious. When one wakes up in the morning, finding it to be dark outside rather than a breaking dawn, yet the clocks in the house and the entire neighborhood confirm that it is indeed the morning hour - this is a countdown sign. Rotation will completely stop in a day or so, with such a dawn followed by an evening where the Sun seems reluctant to set, setting hours later than usual, and then rotation stops completely."
ZetaTalk: Countdown Signs (http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p60.htm)

And recently:

"Red light bends toward Planet X as a gravity draw, such that for those in the Northern Hemisphere the light affecting the sunrise and sunset must come up over more the Earth's fat middle, making the sunrise later and the sunset earlier, a shorter day, the reverse of where it should be going into the Summer Solstice. For those in the Southern Hemisphere, the opposite effect would occur, as they are dealing with less of Earth's Fat middle, and have a longer day potential. Where this phenomena depends upon the time of day and the location of the viewer, who may or may not experience this confusion, it can confuse the issue of determining just when rotation slowing has started, those days when minutes are lost, clearly, and then hours lost. How to best measure then, if rotation slowing has started? Use the direct overhead light during high noon, as this light is primarily outside of those spectrums that bend, and thus will be true. Use a manual clock, as the atomic clocks are automatically set back to obscure the slowing process that has been seconds per day until lately. The slowing process will be minutes only at first, rapidly building to hours during a day, then rapidly moving to a stoppage. On the day that hours a day are presenting, the crust and core will be fighting, and this will translate to moaning and heavy earthquake activity, so can hardly be missed. Thus, finding some way to measure high noon, if only via a tube illuminating an object at the bottom, will be an aid to those wanting that extra day of warning."
ZetaTalk: Countdown Minutes (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta6.htm)

We had a measure at 12 noon for DST which is 11:00 in actuality, not high noon, so set a number of markers for high noon, 1:00. Our 12 noon marker had been showing a FASTER rotation, as sunrise and sunset had, for the past few days, an experience many have reported in the Northern Hemisphere. Some have reported a sunrise or sunset up to 20 minutes or more shorter than expected, a shorter instead of lenghening day at this time going into the summer solstice. Today our 12 noon marker was 4 minutes SLOW, the 1:01 marker 4-5 minutes slow. For those who have likewise set markers, I would appreciate input, data on YOUR readings, on this matter at the Contact Nancy email form from the home page.

[A whole five minutes, wow! I defy anyone to tell the difference around this time of year when the solstice is approaching. Even at one hour you'd barely perceive any great extension, unless of course you'd managed to convince yourself the planet was slowing. Come September when the nights are growing short what will be Nancy's excuse then?

------o------

 

From: "nancylieder" <zetatalk@z...>
Date:
Sun Jun 15, 2003 9:21 pm
Subject:
Red Moon (Many Sources Report June 14)

RED MOON
A fine red dust has been stated by the Zetas as a sign that will appear just prior to rotation slowing and stoppage:

"A second countdown sign is a fine red dust, unmistakable as it cannot be confused with any other natural occurrence. Ponds and rivers turn red, the blood color mentioned in the Bible's book of Revelations, with this iron ore dust giving the water a brackish taste. This countdown sign comes almost in step with the rapid slowing in rotation, as the 12th Planet must be between the Earth and the Sun for the trash in its tail to be sweeping the Earth. Again, this occurs a day or so before rotation stops, and travel will become difficult if not impossible once it does."
ZetaTalk: Countdown Signs (http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p60.htm)

This has been reported on June 14, yesterday, by many in both North America and Europe:
"If this red dust were really just from a factory. I don't know why this would be the first orange halo [Jun 14] I've ever seen. I'm a night owl, so I've seen a few moons. Tonight while driving south at about 1:30 AM I looked up and the moon had a normal looking whitish halo around it about 3 diameters out. But! About 3/4 of a diameter out was a very distinct and odd looking orange halo. Got to my friends and they all had seen it too. My friend said earlier the moon was pink."

[and from another poster]
"That red dust is coming from space not some factory. If that was the case it would be showing up all the time, not just now. Also the moon as I saw it here in Florida last night: very large, very bright, and a luminating red, pinkish halo around the entire circumference of Moon."

[and from another poster]
"Yeah, I´m over in Windsor saw it myself last night about 2:00AM. Very big halo orange brown in color.

 

[and from another poster]

Full moon last night in the Midwest USA had pale reddish cast to it, not at moonrise but high in night sky, kid u not."

[and from another poster]
"I had the same obsevation from high in the sky also last night [Jun 14]. Large red halo around Moon. Have seen it now for 3 nights in a row."

[and from another poster]
"Yesterday at midnight [in Sweden], the full-moon was completely orange and also around the moon it was very much orange among the dark background. Not sure but can't remember I've ever seen it that orange. However, I'm sure that I've never seen the moons surroundings so orange! Almost make you believe it was a late sunset. Don't beleive it could be light pollution."

You'll have noted, I hope, that not one name or source has been identified so that we may verify any of this information. She could have made it all up, or took it from a completely unrelated source for all anyone would know.

 

Here's a little experiment. Go outside and place a white piece of paper on the ground and leave it a couple of days. I guarantee when you finally examine it, (if its not blown away,) it'll be covered in all kinds of shit, but red dust won't be one of them.

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So Nancy still claims these groups have no connection to Zetatalk or the INC whatsoever?

 

Last TT-INC Board Meeting June 8th

 

(NancyL) Jan, please identify the nexus between ZetaTalk and the nonprofit, as there IS none.

 

(NancyL) The mission statements, section 1 of the Bylaws, states "The primary objective and purpose of Troubled Time, Inc. is educational, to educate the public on the likelihood of the pending pole shift, solutions on how to deal with such a cataclysm, and life afterwards.

(NancyL) And section 2, Objectives, states "Troubled Times, Inc. seeks to build solutions sets for surviving the pole shift anticipated to occur in last spring/early summer of the year 2003, and the means to live a healthy life afterwards.
(NancyL) Thus, the nonprofit in no way states ZetaTalk, nor insists on 2003.

 

(Roger) We can continue, and we may have sufficient support among the membership to continue.

(NancyL) Roger, correct, and I meant to also read into the log that the Troubled Times mailing lists, like tt-watch, are also NOT a nonprofit operation whatsoever.
(NancyL) They were in existence before the nonprofit, and are an independent entity.

 

If TT has nothing to do with the TT-Inc, Zetatalk or Nancy why is she using it as a platform to push the Zeta material? Why is it called Troubled Times? Why are the moderators of the TT-groups actually TT-INC members only? Why are the groups heavily biased toward the Zeta material and Nancy's opinion, with all opposing or varying ideals, edited or banned? 

 

Now tell me Nancy does not control the TT-Groups or is not responsible, in whole or in part, for the Troubled Times Group, its ideology and its current catastrophic preparation mentality.

 

(Oh dear Nancy why is it every time you open your mouth lately we find your foot firmly embedded in there.)

 

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