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Dumb And Dumber
".....Troubled Times mailing lists, like tt-watch,
are also NOT a nonprofit operation whatsoever."
Nancy Lieder
Nancy has now reverted back
to the TT-lists (tt-watch) to post her material as all other sources
appear to have been exhausted. (A poor state of affairs for a group she
has openly stated in the past to be full of wingers and whiners.)
From: "nancylieder"
<zetatalk@z...>
Date:
Sun Jun 15, 2003 9:20 pm
Subject:
Slowing Rotation (4-5 Minutes Today)
SLOWING ROTATION
The Zetas recently clarified the best way to watch for slowing minutes,
to gain that extra few days of notice. They stated long ago:
"But there will be a point in time, a few days ahead of when rotation
stops, when this will get blatantly obvious. When one wakes up in the
morning, finding it to be dark outside rather than a breaking dawn, yet
the clocks in the house and the entire neighborhood confirm that it is
indeed the morning hour - this is a countdown sign. Rotation will
completely stop in a day or so, with such a dawn followed by an evening
where the Sun seems reluctant to set, setting hours later than usual,
and then rotation stops completely."
ZetaTalk: Countdown Signs (http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p60.htm)
And recently:
"Red light bends toward Planet X as a gravity draw, such that for those
in the Northern Hemisphere the light affecting the sunrise and sunset
must come up over more the Earth's fat middle, making the sunrise later
and the sunset earlier, a shorter day, the reverse of where it should be
going into the Summer Solstice. For those in the Southern Hemisphere,
the opposite effect would occur, as they are dealing with less of
Earth's Fat middle, and have a longer day potential. Where this
phenomena depends upon the time of day and the location of the viewer,
who may or may not experience this confusion, it can confuse the issue
of determining just when rotation slowing has started, those days when
minutes are lost, clearly, and then hours lost. How to best measure
then, if rotation slowing has started? Use the direct overhead light
during high noon, as this light is primarily outside of those spectrums
that bend, and thus will be true. Use a manual clock, as the atomic
clocks are automatically set back to obscure the slowing process that
has been seconds per day until lately. The slowing process will be
minutes only at first, rapidly building to hours during a day, then
rapidly moving to a stoppage. On the day that hours a day are
presenting, the crust and core will be fighting,
and this will translate to moaning and heavy earthquake activity, so can
hardly be missed. Thus, finding some way to measure high noon, if only
via a tube illuminating an object at the bottom, will be an aid to those
wanting that extra day of warning."
ZetaTalk: Countdown Minutes (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta6.htm)
We had a measure at 12 noon for DST which is 11:00 in actuality, not
high noon, so set a number of markers for high noon, 1:00. Our 12 noon
marker had been showing a FASTER rotation, as sunrise and sunset had,
for the past few days, an experience many have reported in the Northern
Hemisphere. Some have reported a sunrise or sunset up to 20 minutes or
more shorter than expected, a shorter instead of lenghening day at this
time going into the summer solstice. Today our 12 noon marker was 4
minutes SLOW, the 1:01 marker 4-5 minutes slow. For those who have
likewise set markers, I would appreciate input, data on YOUR readings,
on this matter at the Contact Nancy email form from the home page.
[A whole five minutes, wow!
I defy anyone to tell the difference around this time of year when the
solstice is approaching. Even at one hour you'd barely perceive any
great extension, unless of course you'd managed to convince yourself the
planet was slowing. Come September when the nights are growing short
what will be Nancy's excuse then?
------o------
From: "nancylieder"
<zetatalk@z...>
Date: Sun Jun 15, 2003 9:21 pm
Subject: Red Moon (Many Sources
Report June 14)
RED MOON
A fine red dust has been stated by the Zetas as a sign that will appear
just prior to rotation slowing and stoppage:
"A second countdown sign is a fine red dust, unmistakable as it cannot
be confused with any other natural occurrence. Ponds and rivers turn
red, the blood color mentioned in the Bible's book of Revelations, with
this iron ore dust giving the water a brackish taste. This countdown
sign comes almost in step with the rapid slowing in rotation, as the
12th Planet must be between the Earth and the Sun for the trash in its
tail to be sweeping the Earth. Again, this occurs a day or so before
rotation stops, and travel will become difficult if not impossible once
it does."
ZetaTalk: Countdown Signs (http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p60.htm)
This has been reported on June 14, yesterday, by many in both North
America and Europe:
"If this red dust were really just from a
factory. I don't know why this would be the first orange halo [Jun 14]
I've ever seen. I'm a night owl, so I've seen a few moons. Tonight while
driving south at about 1:30 AM I looked up and the moon had a normal
looking whitish halo around it about 3 diameters out. But! About 3/4 of
a diameter out was a very distinct and odd looking orange halo. Got to
my friends and they all had seen it too. My friend said earlier the moon
was pink."
[and from another poster]
"That red dust is coming from space not
some factory. If that was the case it would be showing up all the time,
not just now. Also the moon as I saw it here in Florida last night: very
large, very bright, and a luminating red, pinkish halo around the entire
circumference of Moon."
[and from another poster]
"Yeah, I´m over in Windsor saw it myself
last night about 2:00AM. Very big halo orange brown in color.
[and from another poster]
Full moon last night in the Midwest USA had
pale reddish cast to it, not at moonrise but high in night sky, kid u
not."
[and from another poster]
"I had the same obsevation from high in the
sky also last night [Jun 14]. Large red halo around Moon. Have seen it
now for 3 nights in a row."
[and from another poster]
"Yesterday at midnight [in Sweden], the
full-moon was completely orange and also around the moon it was very
much orange among the dark background. Not sure but can't remember I've
ever seen it that orange. However, I'm sure that I've never seen the
moons surroundings so orange! Almost make you believe it was a late
sunset. Don't beleive it could be light pollution."
You'll have noted, I hope,
that not one name or source has been identified so that we may verify
any of this information. She could have made it all up, or took it from
a completely unrelated source for all anyone would know.
Here's a little experiment.
Go outside and place a white piece of paper on the ground and leave it a
couple of days. I guarantee when you finally examine it, (if its not
blown away,) it'll be covered in all kinds of shit, but red dust won't
be one of them.
------o------
So
Nancy still claims these groups have no connection to Zetatalk or the
INC whatsoever?
Last TT-INC Board Meeting
June 8th
(NancyL) Jan, please
identify the nexus between ZetaTalk and the nonprofit, as there IS none.
(NancyL) The mission
statements, section 1 of the Bylaws, states "The primary objective and
purpose of Troubled Time, Inc. is educational, to educate the public on
the likelihood of the pending pole shift, solutions on how to deal with
such a cataclysm, and life afterwards.
(NancyL) And section 2,
Objectives, states "Troubled Times, Inc. seeks to build solutions sets
for surviving the pole shift anticipated to occur in last spring/early
summer of the year 2003, and the means to live a healthy life
afterwards.
(NancyL) Thus, the
nonprofit in no way states ZetaTalk, nor insists on 2003.
(Roger) We can continue, and we may have sufficient support among
the membership to continue.
(NancyL) Roger,
correct, and I meant to also read into the log that the Troubled Times
mailing lists, like tt-watch, are also NOT a nonprofit operation
whatsoever.
(NancyL) They were in
existence before the nonprofit, and are an independent entity.
If
TT has nothing to do with the TT-Inc, Zetatalk or Nancy why is she using
it as a platform to push the Zeta material? Why is it called Troubled
Times? Why are the moderators of the TT-groups actually TT-INC members
only? Why are the groups heavily biased toward the Zeta material and
Nancy's opinion, with all opposing or varying ideals, edited or banned?
Now
tell me Nancy does not control the TT-Groups or is not responsible, in
whole or in part, for the Troubled Times Group, its ideology and its
current catastrophic preparation mentality.
(Oh
dear Nancy why is it every time you open your mouth lately we find your
foot firmly embedded in there.)
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