"I believe I'm seeing more and  more on the images posted at Nancy's site. This is my opinion."

  Kingman

 

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Mr Kingman the newbie zetadrone from sci-astro made his/her début on tt-watch recently, showing all the same hallmarks, especially concerning his apparent interest on those who also frequent that particular N/G, (Namely Michael Cunningham.)


From: "kingmanhigh2" <soundstream@s...>
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:05 am
Subject: Re: Latest image was a CCD defect

Duane Elderkin <duanee@c...> wrote:
I have to agree with this whole line of reasoning. Why do the debunkers go to such lengths to prove or attempt to show that this whole thing is a fraud?

 

"idont222" <idont1@h...> wrote:
What "great lengths"? You mean a few posts on the tt groups and some harassment of Nancy on IRC?
 

>Why give it so much attention.
 
>>See above, but remember that Nancy has been pounding her "message" into a science newsgroup for some 7 years, insulting people there  right and left and telling lies during all of that time. You expect NO reaction to that?<<
 

>In the grand scheme of things if 100 or so people who meet regularly in a Saturday chat, and also a greater number openly discuss an idea in a Yahoo group that seems farfetched what is the big deal?
 
>>The "big deal" is simply that people have become exasperated with Nancy's continual lying. Each new round of images falsely claiming to show PX get's people's ire up again.

Stop right there! Your opinion only. I believe I'm seeing more and  more on the images posted at Nancy's site. This is my opinion. Now you have two opinions. Just because you say something  doesn't make it true. People, go and view the long and ongoing imaging that has tracked the incoming PX according to the  coordinates given by the Zetas. Look before you let anyone  tell you what is and what isn't.

>Would this group of people really disrupt the world or the debunker's lives by believing this?
 
>> Nancy has been disrupting sci.astro for 7 years.
 
>It's like trying to get a Christian person to become a Jehovah's witness or something. Why go to the lengths to attempt to change people's thoughts.
 

>>If they come to your door(as Nancy does) many people argue with them.
 
>Why even have debunkers.
 
>>Because Nancy keeps spouting her fantasy on sci.astro.
 

>Are these the type of people who can't bear to be wrong so they keep shouting louder and louder that  they are right?
 
>>What "shouting"?? From the beginning people on sci.astro calmly refuted nancy's claims. It was SHE who began throwing insults and calling people liars. As it became clear that Nancy will not even answer to the refutations, but only contrive wild stories about a "coverup", people on sci.astro lost patience with her. This surprises you? By the way, if you don't actually read sci.astro for yourself, but only read nancy's version of what happens there, you really have a very skewed idea of the exchange there. For example, IMO calmly and completely refuted all of Nancy's claimed images of PX. Just because Nancy tells you he is a "debunker" and "hiding"(which he is not, by the way), you discount his clearly superior image work. Same goes for Sarah.

I'll refute that. IMO's images had visual affirmations showing new objects where there wasn't any before(using DSS as comparison). I won't call him a pro-debunker, just a freelancer.
 
>I guess it becomes a personal agenda to them to try to sway anyone to their way of thinking.
 
>>No, it becomes a personal aganda to counter blatant falsehoods being perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.

Your talking about all the stuff the debunkers spew right?
 
>On that topic I don't believe that Nancy and the Zs operate in this way. They clearly seem to say that they are just giving out the information straight and we can do what we want with it.
 
>>No, they say: "think for yourself- here's what that is...".
 

>This doesn't have the feel of a "Cult" and there is no line for cyanide Kool-Aid.
 
>>Yes it does. Why can't you look at clearly superior image work and realize what it means? Why? Because Nancy told you not to...

Your the one that wants people to not bother looking.
 
>As far as I know I haven't sent any money Nancy's way either so where is the profit in a hoax??
 
>>That is not the only possible reason and just because the motive is cloudy, it doesn't mean that deception is not occurring. It is. Why do you think there are STTTTTIIIIIILLLLLLLL no clear images?

Contrary to this persons claims there are plenty of images to make a early decision whether to watch and develop your own opinion. It will take very little of your time and could be lifesaving.

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From: "kingmanhigh2" <soundstream@s...>
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:38 am
Subject: Re: Above Black and Project Preserve Destiny

At 05:09 PM 3/8/2003 +0000, "duncancarroll" <duncancarroll@y...>
wrote:

 

The coming pole shift is one of the best keps secrets of our time. . .The integral pieces of the puzzle fit together so well that for me it is not a question of if, but when. (the existence or nonexistence of PX notwithstanding). This interview is from http://www.debshome.com/DanShermanInterview.html
 

I've posted the full version of "Above Black" in the Files section, named "Above Black.doc"
 

The coming pole shift is one of the best keps secrets of our time. The integral pieces of the puzzle fit together so well that for me it is not a question of if, but when. (the existence or nonexistence of PX notwithstanding). This interview is from http://www.debshome.com/DanShermanInterview.html I've posted the full version of "Above Black" in the Files section named "Above Black.doc"

"Interview with Dan Sherman:
Dan Sherman went into the United States Air Force like most other American guys, extremely proud to serve his country and its well trained sophisticated military. During his twelve years in service he was recognised for heroism, and was decorated with the AF Commendation Medal, as well as the AFAchievement Medal with two oakleaf clusters. He also received the Outstanding Unit Award with three oakleafclusters and was honoured for service in the Persian Gulf war. . ."


Michael L Cunningham <bogeystar@e...> wrote:
Sorry but those medals don't really mean much. I have them too stuck away in my desk.
Michael<


So? What does that mean Michael. Sounds like you just had to respond in a negative matter to keep within your nature. If you don't believe something try moving on. There's no point in hearing  you speak about your lousy medals when they don't mean squat to the service you gave your country.

Kingman

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From: Michael L Cunningham <bogeystar@e...>
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:59 am
Subject: Re: [tt-watch] Re: Above Black and Project Preserve Destiny

Be very careful as how you respond.

I earned my medals in Vietnam with spilled blood and the loss of close friends. I don't parade them around to prove any point unlike the author of Above Black.

I have little regard and sympathy for individuals who wear their medals to further their agendas as if the medals add validity to the point or private agenda they're pushing.

The noted medals were earned with unit honors and for those who don't know the meaning of each service medal and the oak clusters that go with them, there are numerous sites on line that explain in detail what each one means.

Michael

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From: "kingmanhigh2" <soundstream@s...>
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 7:01 am
Subject: Re: Above Black and Project Preserve Destiny

My response was created by your frame of reference. If you think those honors given for your service to our freedom here are more important than your wording in your first posting why belittle them so and the other men who were your friends. Why do this? I think the medals part is something that does carry significance and the author should present his service record.

Kingman

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From: Michael Cunningham <bogeystar@e...>
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-watch] Re: Above Black and Project Preserve Destiny


Apparently you have little or no knowledge as the the medals (ribbons) cited and what their value is to the individual or unit they were bestoyed upon. I suggest you research the medals (ribbons) and the requirements to wear them. You might have a better understanding as to what they mean. Very few medals mean anything while the vast majority are unit citations and can only go on the individuals record if he/she was a part of the unit when the citation was awarded. Rather than to continue with this subject, do a search on the web so you'll have a clearer understanding about the citations.


I was not belittling the medals as you stated. I question the motive of the individual who uses those citations to further his own agenda.

Be thankful you are able to express your view point. That privilege was paid for in blood.

Michael

[Moderator's note: That's enough about medals. End of thread.]

[As per usual he has had little else to say since, or at least until he can find something else to challenge Michael.]

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