Four months

TT Social

It would seem the loyal Zeta faithful are becoming paranoid, perhaps because the mythical planet has not yet shown itself, despite only being months away, but also because the "experts" have failed to show anything in the CCD imaging thus far. (I can see another "witch-hunt brewing.")

From: Tristan Faulkner <everything_tristan@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:02 pm
Subject: Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

Hello friends,
In my time on these list, I have been fascinated by the debunkers. In fact, one of the things that most convinced me of the truth of PX, was in fact DUE to
their presence. Alot of times, I was in awe to how steadfast their counter messages are/were and the shear VOLUME of their postings. I couldn't help but ask myself, 'why such a backlash if PX doesent exist?' Why do they care? I have visited other such web groups of end times and you just dont see this type of phenomenon, with the excepion of lone hecklers. Add to this, the number of false personas on our web groups, created to back one debunkers lone opinion. Done no doubt, to give the impression that the debunker crowd is larger than it actually is.

Here, I will provide links to such instances I have discovered.

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Cases in point:
#1.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-social/message/5945

bandanabarts/lizziej123/ailiope/xingbinglie

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt social/messagesearch?query

=24.186.105.199

One person, Four personas.

#2.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/12071

sherlock_555/scaredofplanetx

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/messagesearch?query

=216.104.107.

One person, Two personas

#3.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/13274

idont222/yaaada yaaada

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/messagesearch?query=216.222.15.80

One person, Two personas.

#4.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/13339

darkstarin2003/Michael L Cunningham

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/messagesearch?query=4.43.225.

One person, Two personas.
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I'm sure there are many others, as some have been savvy enough to atleast go out of town to post their messages of disinformation. Some, however appear to either think noone will notice, or they just dont care. Also, it has been noted by another observant person, some of these messages posted, actually come from the military! With navy.mil etc. as the originating address. In closing, I invite the readership to search the message archives of these personas to the get a feel for what they are saying. They are desperate to make you think PX doesent exist. In my opinion, they hope their noise will drown out any valid evidence that has been presented, that PX does indeed exist.

Tristan Faulkner

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From: "Claudio" <vklotchkov@y...>
Date: Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:39 am
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

Thank you Tristan! I wonder how they are feeling. But you know I think we sould avoid making a mockery of these crowds. Cause we are all brothers & sisters & God's children. The point is that they ARE NOT aware of the right side of the Issue, so they are posting debunking rubbish as they are obliged to (by their military or secret services). Nevermind! God's truth will come the way it's meant to come. With the Planet X or without It. So Love for everybody, & for the debunkers too! Open your minds!

Vlad.

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From: Tristan Faulkner <everything_tristan@y...>
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:28 am
Subject: Re: Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

--- In tt-social@yahoogroups.com, "idont222" <idont1@h...> wrote:
> So you are saying that because there is lots of debunking that PX is real AND that because there are few debunkers that PX is real?<

Idont, yaada, howmo blah blah blah,

*yawn* Tracing you, yet again, I notice you AND Micheal Cunningham aka darkstarin2003, appear to come from the same place as well.

You: gige9-1.ipcolo3.SanJose1.Level3.net San jose,CA,USA

MC: Genuity-Level3-oc12.SanJose1.Level3.net San jose,CA,USA

Of course, only after going through: ael-3.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net Sterling,VA,USA

Where a neat little Government installation is located! :)

Also folks, please take note that after I posted that nice little message about our most INfamous debunker, who was ghost posting, someone attempted to hack my
poor little comp.

I almost feel honoured because that seems to be the intiation rite for folks who start ruffling the feathers.

And where is Micahel Cunningham? Since you are fanatical about posting on images, where is your response to my findings? :)

Again, I ask yaada...If you dont believe, why do you care?

Tristan Faulkner

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From: Michael L Cunningham <bogeystar@e...>
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Re: Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

Sorry Tristan but your paranoia is really getting the best of you.

I live in Los Angeles, CA as most members know. I also use Earthlink DSL. Yahoo has an on-going problem with e-mail (as most of this group knows) which is why I missed a lot of the old messages and which was the main reason I rejoined as darkstarin2003 in an attempt to redirect the e-mails to my hotmail accounts. It doesn't take an Einstein to trace an IP and figure out it was me. Everyone in this group also knows my disdain for posting under handles. I prefer my real name.

>Also folks, please take note that after I posted that nice little message about our most INfamous debunker, who was ghost posting, someone attempted to hack my poor little comp.<

Now you're accusing me of hacking? I have better things to do that would waste my time rather than hack your computer.

>I almost feel honoured because that seems to be the intiation rite for folks who start ruffling the feathers.And where is Micahel Cunningham? Since you are fanatical about posting on images, where is your response to my findings? :)<

Sorry Tristan but you don't call the shots on when and where I post my images. As I have explained many times, Nancy MUST make certain statements BEFORE I post any image taken from my telescope. Both Nancy and Dell are notorious for stealing images and posting misrepresentations about what is contained on them.

Your findings? I haven't seen any references that I should respond to.

Finally, if you want to continue this dialogue, you'll have to continue posting it in tt-social or take it up with me on private e-mail. You do have my Earthlink e-mail don't you or will you have to trace my IP for that?

Michael

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From: Beenthdonedat@a...
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Re: Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

In a message dated 03/16/2003 10:30:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
bogeystar@e... writes:
Yahoo has an on-going problem with e-mail (as most of this group knows) which is why I missed a lot of the old messages and which was the main reason I rejoined as darkstarin2003 in an attempt to.....<

Ahem!!!! Well, mister MC I think that you are full of BS. This quote.....

>"I've only started to inquire into this event."<

of yours, writing as darkstarIn2003, is obviously trying to mislead people as to your real identity, anyone who knows how long you have been here posting/posing as Michael Cunninham knows that you eat sleep and drink ZT/PX information/debunking BS for the last few years. Tristan paranoid? Maybe, but he caught you with your pants down now (all of you) and you just had a little slip there that is going to cost you dearly (maybe a demotion)? I love how long it takes for you guys to prepare your responses and come back with more incoherent crap and your old school style of copying and pasting fraction quotes to muddy the real issue.

"I only started to inquire into this event" OH my goodness, the last damning
words. Rookie.

Horatio.

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From: "mlistman" <mlistman@i...>
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

Wow! How much integrity do you expect to maintian in everyone's eyes after this? To use an "on-going problem with e-mail" as an excuse to adopt a new persona is a joke. There were people here who respected your opinion, and all that you need do in the face of "email problems" is to sign the new emails with your real name. But choosing to use this new address to dishonestly futher your own point of view is gross. It seems your "disdain" for this very practice took a vacation last week.

Normally I'd expect someone guilty of such a dishonorable display to run off and never be heard of again, but somehow I don't think that your ego would allow that...

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From: Michael L Cunningham <bogeystar@e...>
Date: Sun Mar 16, 2003 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Re: Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

At 01:49 PM 3/16/2003 -0500, you wrote:
In a message dated 03/16/2003 10:30:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, bogeystar@e... writes:
Yahoo has an on-going problem with e-mail (as most of this group knows) which is why I missed a lot of the old messages and which was the main reason I rejoined as darkstarin2003 in an attempt to<<

>Ahem!!!! Well, mister MC I think that you are full of BS. This quote..... "I've only started to inquire into this event."<

Which was referring to the posting of Nancy's unconfirmed binocular
sighting by airline pilots over the Amazon Basin.

If you wish to continue this discussion, please use my e-mail account.

Michael

[Moderator's comment: Rest of lame excuses deleted. End of thread, Michael.]
[Note the added moderator note. This is a feature of yahoo moderator services. (See moderator facilities.) Part of Michaels posting has been edited and deleted.]

From: "Tristan Faulkner" <everything_tristan@y...>
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:26 am
Subject: Re: Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

Michael, if you were having problems with email, why the false persona on our webgroup? Why post under a different name claiming you had only just begun to research this px matter?You havent addressed that. :) Whats the matter, cat got your tongue? You were caught red handed and now eveyone knows to watch out for you because you obviously have a hidden agenda. I hear emails like "Can I really take this guy serious now?" and "Why would he do that?"

I was more than happy to supply the answers.

Tristan Faulkner

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From: Michael Cunningham <bogeystar@e...>
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Re: Debunkers and The false crowd. A look at trickery. VI

Per my last posting, the final sentence by the moderator says it all. In the moderators opinion, my "lame excuse" was deleted. How's that for creative
editing!

Seems my e-mails are running about he same as yours in as much as I still get
private e-mails from forum members thanking me for my continued presence here.

Too bad you won't be able to edit what won't be visible in the skies shortly.
Time is running out for this forum.

Michael

[Moderator's note: End of thread. That also applies to you, Tristan.]

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