THE LONDON GREEN BELT COUNCIL                               Minutes 379 - 382

 

Minutes of the Annual General Meeting held in the Thatcher Room, Portcullis House, Westminster on 22 November 2006

 

Present            Mr R Smith, Vice-President (Potters Bar Society)

              Mr T Simpson, Chairman (Elstree & Borehamwood G B Soc.)

              Mr L Holt, Secretary (Chislehurst Society)

  Mr S Smith, Treasurer (Enfield Preservation Society)

              Mrs G Oliver, Assistant Secretary (East Barnet Parish Residents Association)

              Mr R Liffen, Assistant Secretary (Carshalton-on-the-Hill Residents Association)

 

Mr S Errington, Soc for Preservation of Ascot & Environs

Ms J Hargreaves, Brindles Wood Residents Association

Mrs J Habib, Chiltern Society

Mrs G Hein, CPRE Surrey

Mr C Pohl, CPREssex

Mr P Barker, East Coulsdon Residents Association

Mr A Walker, Epping Society

Mr H Bitten, Friends of Epping Forest & CPREssex

Mrs A Swinson, Hatch End Association

Mr P York, Kent Federation of Amenity Societies

 

Mr C Hoptroff, Leighton Buzzard Society

Miss M Dewing, Mill Hill Preservation Society

Mr P Ward-Lee, Old Coulsdon Residents Association

Mr C Beney, Open Spaces Society

Mr M Maurice, Pinner Society

Mr P Rogers, Sevenoaks Society

Mr G  Quantock, South Ruislip Residents Association Mr G Belsman, Stanmore Society

Mr J Archer, Youth Hostels Association (South Region)

 

Apologies for Absence  Mrs T Villiers (President), Mr R Atkinson (Education officer),Denham Parish Council, Headstone Residents Association, Mill Hill Residents Association, and Ottershaw Society.

 

Matters arising from previous minutes

 

353      50th Brithday celebrations       The Chairman said that staff at Portcullis House had been approached about holding a reception after this meeting but owing to some confusion they had not come back to him.  Members suggested that if possible it would be nice to hold it in one of the rooms adjoining Westminster Hall.  It was agreed to try to arrange something to coincide with the meeting next spring.  Mr Liffen said that a well known ‘name’ as speaker would help to assure a good attendance.

 

369(3)  Education        In giving Mr Atkinson’s apologies, the Chairman said that a CD-ROM would be available for schools in March 2007.  It will be suitable for about year 6 pupils.

 

371(2)  LGBC Website                        Mr Beney reported that there had been some improvement of the existing website and this was about as much as could be done with the present arrangement.  The Chairman invited Mrs Habib to draw a sketch for a logo which could go on to the site.

 

372(4)  Bentley Priory   Mr Belsman said that the Stanmore Society were pressing to save the house and the land around it.  They were concerned at the way it had been sold to a “suitable” developer i.e. suitable to the MoD.  There was no specific development proposal yet.  If development has to occur, the Stanmore Society would prefer it not to be residential.  The Chairman said he had received two letters from MoD seeking to assure him that the site would be disposed by the Government in a way cognisant of its Heritage.

            In reply to a question by the Vice-President, Mr Belsman explained that Bentley Priory is a Major Developed Site in the Green Belt.  Its designation evoked little comment at the time the Local Plan was produced, probably because it was mistakenly assumed that any disposal would not be soon. Only about 20% of the site is built on; the rest is open.

The Secretary wondered whether the whole site had been included because, being a military establishment, there were no maps available to show where the buildings are. He recalled that when Biggin Hill Airfield was considered for inclusion as a major developed site, the planning authority divided it up into four parts.  One part comprised the runway and the Inspector ruled that it should not be designated a major developed site.  He rejected arguments by MoD that it should be included and the question of whether development should be allowed left until an application was made.  The Secretary suggested arguing that any development on the site must be within the existing footprint and have no greater impact on the openness of the Green Belt than at present.  This is required by Annex C, paragraphs 4(a) and (d) of PPG2.  The Chairman added that the view over London from Bentley Priory was as significant element which needed to be preserved.

 

372(5)  Rail Freight Interchange of Radlett Aerodrome           The Chairman reported that this proposal was in abeyance.  Both Dacorum Borough Council and the County Council were against it and the Department for Transport would not allow access on to the M25.

 

Item 379 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

 

1.    Chairman’s Review of the Year   The Chairman thanked everyone for attending and their continued vigilance in defending the Green Belt.  It is essential to get across that the Green Belt is not up for grabs or for swaps.  The year started with reviews of the East of England and the South East Regional Plans. He thanked Mrs Oliver for covering the former and the Secretary the latter.  There was also the ridiculous report for the Adam Smith Institute which was comprehensively rubbished by the Vice President in a letter to the Minister.  Baroness Andrews’ reply which indicated that Government took a similar view of it is a benchmark of Government support for the Green Belt.

            The Chairman said he had, through the President, lobbied on many fronts, from the local, like Bentley Priory and the Stanmore developments to the countrywide problems of strip sales of land and 600,000 houses lying empty. The Government will not put pressure on local authorities and housing associations to put these into a habitable state because it would require Government money.

            The Chairman concluded by thanking the officers for their efforts and asked for members’ patience as he was still learning the ropes and had some long term domestic difficulties to contend with.

 

2.    Treasurer’s Report               The Treasurer reported that income for the year was a little lower than in the previous year but that year did include a donation of just over £200 from a member which closed down.  Expenditure rose considerably, mainly in postage, hire of a hall for the last AGM, travel of delegates to meetings and internet registration including some improvements to the website.

            Overall there was a small deficit of £90, so the funds, at the end of the financial year in August stood at £7718.93.  In view of this healthy balance, the Treasurer recommended no change in the subscription.

            The Treasurers’ report was accepted unanimously.

            No subscriptions had been received from the following organisations and the Treasurer recommended that they be removed for the membership list:  Battlesbridge Protection Society, Binfield Parish Council, Bucks County Council, CPRE (Berks) [Bracknell & Ascot], CPRE (Berks) [Cookham & Bisham], Cyclist Touring Club, Friends of Hillingdon House Farm, Goffs Oak Community Association, Rochford Hundred Amenity Society, St Albans District Council and Springwell Residents’ & Conservation Association.  Mr Pohl explained that the Rochford Society was no longer active, but surprise was expressed that some of the others had not paid and some members undertook to chase some of them.  It was agreed that if that proved unsuccessful they would be removed as recommended by the Treasurer.

 

6.    Election of Officers                       Mr S Smith and Mrs Oliver wished to stand down from their respective posts of Treasurer and Assistant Secretary.  The Chairman thanked them for all the work they had done over many years and presented each with a token of the LGBC’s esteem.

 

The following were elected nem con:

                  (a) Chairman:  Mr T Simpson             (b) Vice-Chairman: Mr C Hoptroff

(b) Secretary:  Mr L Holt                      (c) Treasurer:  Mrs J Habib

(d) Assistant Secretary:          Mr R Liffen

 

Following the elections, there was some discussion about the need for more Assistant Secretaries and how the work of LGBC might be organised. Mrs Oliver explained that she liaised with member organisations in an area from Harrow to Enfield, writing letters on behalf of LGBC as necessary.  To some extent the job was what you made it. She had probably made a rod for her own back by writing letters which were too long and detailed.  It was suggested that the title ‘Area Representative’ might more accurately describe the work done by the assistant secretaries and encourage more people to take it on.  The more people who did it, the smaller the area each would have to cover.  Taken to the limit, the area representatives might be a correspondent in each of the member organisations.  No decisions were taken.

 

It was suggested that it would aid communication if the contact details of the officers were included in these minutes.  They are:

Chairman.  T J Simpson, Pages Farm House, Dagger Lane, Elstree WD6 3AU, Tel: 020 8953 3421

                  Email: simpages@hotmail.com

Vice Chairman.   C G Hoptroff, 4A Paddock Way, Fenny Stratford, Milton Keynes MK2 2NB

                  Tel 01908 632440  Email: Chopt@aol.com

Secretary.   L G Holt, 13 Oakleigh Park Avenue, Chislehurst, Kent BR7 5PB  Tel:  020 8467 5346

Treasurer.   Mrs J Habib, 13 Doctors Commons Road, Berkhamstead, HP4 3DW  Tel: 01442 873029

                  Email; J.Habib@ntlworld.com

Assistant Secretary:  R Liffen, 24 Delmany Road, Carshalton, SM5 4PP  Tel/Fax: 020 8647 1009

                  Email: RayLiffen@compuserve.com

 

Item 380  South Bedfordshire Green Belt Review

 

Mr Hoptroff recalled that the Milton Keynes and South Midlands Sub-regional Strategy provided that the Luton and Bedfordshire part of the Sub-region needed to provide 26,000 houses in the period 2001-2021 and that there should be a review of the Green Belt in the Area.  To start the process, a meeting of interested parties was called at Whipsnade Zoo in October. He and Mrs Habib had attended.

The meeting had two main themes. ‘What should be the approach to the review?’  and ‘How can land designated as Green Belt be improved and made best use of?’  On the first issue, South Beds DC suggested that there were two possible approaches.  The first, a minimalist approach was simply to release just enough land from Green Belt to provide for the required houses and land to be safeguarded for possible future development to 2031.  A more radical approach would be to look at the reasons for Green Belt in South Beds.  South of Luton and Dunstable, its purpose was to maintain a separation from London and it seemed important that this should be maintained.  Its purpose north of Luton, Dunstable and Houghton Regis was different.  Its main purpose now is to make sure there is no coalescence with Milton Keynes.  The question now arises whether that would be better achieved by having a Green Belt round Milton Keynes instead. 

            South Beds CC are digesting the views expressed at the meeting and will shortly produce a report and indicate the next steps.

 

Item 381   Officers’ reports on new business since the last meeting

 

1.         The Secretary reported that he had corresponded with various planning authorities on their Framework documents and with the South East England Regional Assembly on the South East Development Plan and the Kent Waste Development Plan.  He said that following a trend over the last year or so, there seemed to be fewer planning application raising Green Belt issues in his area. He had entered objections on appeals on applications for

(a)                        Residential Plots at Waldens Farm, Cockenhill Road, Swanley, and

(b)                        Change of use to a caravan site at Redcourt, Hollywood Lane, West Kingsdown, Sevenoaks.

An application to Havering Council to extend a golf course and construct a reservoir did not call for comment

 

2.         The Secretary said he had received a sample copy of a new publication which listed planning appeals relating to Gloucestershire.  The section on Green Belt appeals listed only 40 cases and of these the vast majority were dismissed.  He considered that this demonstrated that the Government’s support for the Green Belt was genuine.  Mr Bitten said experience in Epping Forest District was similar.

 

3.         Mrs Oliver said that an application by Tottenham Hotspur Football Club for a training ground at Bulls Cross, Enfield had been turned down by the Council following a campaign by local organisations.  Mr S Smith understood that the club would try again.  Mr Bitten said similar applications by Tottenham at Abridge and by Chelsea had been turned down on Green Belt grounds but he did not know the details. 

 

 

Item 382  Other matters raised by members

 

1.         Mr Rogers said that Sevenoaks District Council had tried to introduce a policy under which developments would only be allowed if they comprised a majority of affordable housing.  The Government however stopped them, saying that any such policy should only be introduced as part of the local Development Framework which will not be ready or about two years.  Mr Rogers foresaw additional pressure on the Green Belt.

 

2.         Mrs Hein said that over ambitious plans for the replacement of Walton Bridge had been turned down after a public inquiry.  Planning permission had already been given for the scheme but the inspector at the inquiry into the side road and compulsory purchase orders had rejected the whole scheme.

 

3.         Mrs Hein also reported that there was concern over trial borings for gas under the Surrey Hills at Blackheath.  It would cause major disruption to the countryside if gas were to be extracted there or if the geology were found to be suitable for the storage of liquid gas.

 

THE DATE OF THE NEXT MEETING   will be in held in the Palace of Westminster in March 2007 (probably either the 14th or the 21st).  The exact date will be notified in due course.   The business of the meeting will be followed by a celebration of the success of the Green Belt over 50 years.