Kilbey family  early 1800's        and some later data


Two  Kirk girls married in 1840's one to a Kilbey another to a Whiter!

At one time they shared an address in Bethnal Green


Will be looking into this link soon!

Corres.  from Maggie Kilbey

Like you, I am interested in family history.  When playing on the
internet I was curious to find my GGGGGuncle James Kilbey
notified the death of Mary Whiter in 1844. He lived in the same
house (5 Virginia Row) but I don't know if they were related or
co-lodgers. Interestingly though other members of my family
also lived in 9 Turk St.


   In 1851 the Whiters were in Virginia Row no's 4 and 5.

 See below!
 Have not found that Kilbey family.
 But did find for 1851  at 4 Princes street     H107-1542  page1199 of 1300
 Richard Kilbey   aged 45   Silk weaver
 Harriet  the wife  also Children  John,George,Joseph and Albert

 In 1841       it gives  at 56 Virginia Row  
  (some renumbering in Virginia Row or replacement tenements?)

James Kilbey   40   Shoe Maker    born locally
 Mary                  45? Shoe Binder   born locally

 There were also Kilbeys at 4, 5, 6, 7 & 7B Virginia Row over the years.
 Also 9, 17, 22 & 23 Turk St 
            (  from Certificates? they seem to be elsewhere during Census years!)
- in fact looking at my records again

 I have made a mildly interesting discovery:

 Joshua Kilbey was born next door at 4 Virginia Row in 1843.  His parents
 were Joshua Kilbey & Mary Ann Kirk (my GGGgrandparents, married
1843 in the Parish Church, Hackney her father was John Kirk
    ( had another look at the certificate & my John Kirk was a pattern drawer.)
- do you

think she could be sister to the Elizabeth Kirk you list as married 
to Thomas Whiter in 1842?

(Father of Elizabeth was John Kirk    Pattern drawer
 witnesses George Whiter and Ann Brian(Brien) who subsequently married.
 So we seem to have a link.)     Now to explore that set of people!

 According to your online certificates their child
  Elizabeth  was born in 1847
 at 4 Virginia Row-- I reckon she & Joshua werecousins.

Joshua & Mary Ann moved to 9 Turk St & were there at the 1861 census.

 I can find the "departure" of James registered  in 1867 March 
 Bethnal
Green 1 c  229   no sign of Mary


Did see a   Marian and Louisa Kilby at 18 Gibraltar Walk   
        H107-1539     addendum  page 358 of 396

 No relation that I know of, but thanks.


Note:  age is the lower of 5 year groups,where censustaker is not told exact age!

1841 Census   693-4   Virginia Row,bethnal Green

(Very cosy arrangements!)  
  But we seem to be short of Joshua Kilbey who marries Mary ann Kirk in 1843
  Kilbey or Kilby  seems to be confused at that time
     since reading and writing was not common and the exact spelling of names had not been fixed,Census takers seemed to write down what they heard!

45 Virginia Row          page 196 of 202 RH      (or 45 of 53 on 693-04)

John Kilby       65  Shoemaker
Elizabeth          60  Shoebinder
Caleb                 25   Makes  Lucifers
Benjamin         14         ditto

Also at    45 Virginia Row        page 197 of 202  LH

John Kirk        45    Pattern Drawer
Elizabeth         45    Independent means
Elizabeth         20    
Mary A              15
Eliza                  10
Isabella               5  

56 Virginia Row     page  198  RH

Henry Kilby      24    Shoemaker?
Sarah                 20
Caroline              2
Henry                  22mths
Ann                       5 mths

56 Virginia Row   page 199 LH

Charles and Ann Whiter with family
also
James Kilby       40    Shoemaker
Mary Kilby          45   Shoemaker  

Others:

26 Virginia Row   page 191 of 202 RH

William Whiter
Maria (Popplewell)
etc

31 Virginia Row   page 193 of 202 RH

Samuel Whiter
no wife listed
assorted children


1851   Census    1539-1   1539-2 and part of 1542 Turk Street

1539-1  page  344 of 396 in addenda     6 VirgInia Row 

Thomas? Kirk     Head     Mar      60    Glass painter                     Warwickshire
Betsey                   wife       mar     57                                                   St Lukes,Middx 
Eliza                       daur     unm    21  Harp string Maker                Bethnal Green
        gets married Q1 1854?
Isabella                  daur    unm     17      Glass painter                            ditto 

1539-1  page 344 of 396                   4 Virginia Row

Marian Kilby       Head    Mar    40       Dressmaker                         Andover,Hants
Louisa                  daur                10                                                      Bethnal Green
Ambrose              son                   5                                                           ditto

   H107-1542          page1199 of 1300                      4 Princes street  
 Richard Kilbey   aged 45   Silk weaver                                            Shoreditch     
 Harriet  the wife
  also Children       John,George,Joseph and Albert

No others found!


1861 Census                  Where Whiter Allies?

RG9-252  page 191 of 403       5 Virginia Row     ? son of Elizabeth Kirk

Thomas Whiter   servant  unm    11   Bricklayers Boy             Bethnal Green-

RG9-263   page 241/2 of 319       9 Turk Street

Joshua Kilbey        Head    Mar    41          Shoemaker                 Shoreditch
Mary                           wife     mar    35             ditto                           Bethnal Green       
Eliza                          daur    unm    14             ditto                        all others BG  
Henry                         son                 12             ditto
Jas                             son                  10 
Mary Ann                 daur                   8
Isabella                     daur                  6  
Samuel                      son                   4
Elizabeth                  daur                  2            


1901 Census

RG13-292  122 Sewardstone Road,Bethnal Green

Frederick Kilbey    Head   Mar    26   Shopkeeper  Boots and Shoes  Shoreditch
Sarah                        wife     mar    25                                                            Bethnal Green
Rose                        sister   unm   29   District Visitor                              Shoreditch

 

RG13-295  page 205 of 315   43 Moss Street,Bethnal Green

James Kilbey    Head   Mar   39     Bricklayers Labourer        All Bethnal Green
Mary A                wife     mar    37    Match Box Maker
Mary E                daur               18     Book Finisher
Emily A               daur               17     Bonnet Maker
Henry                  son                12
Edward               son                10
Violet                   daur               18   
Elizabeth            daur               15

 

RG13-295  page 302 of 315  40 Walter Street,Bethnal Green

 

Fred Kilbey      Head   Mar    49         Warehouseman         All Bethnal Green
Fanny                Wife    mar    46  
Matilda              daur    unm   23         Tailor
Francis              son     unm   19         Coat maker
Alfred                 son                16          Bone Sawyer  
Tom                    son                12

 

RG13-296  page 75 of 357   6 Portman Place,Bethnal Green

Alfred W Kilbey        Head   Mar    37     ShoeMaker                 All Bethnal Green
Jane                            wife     mar    35  
Jane                            daur               16     Fancy box Maker
Caroline                     daur                13
Caroline             Mother    Widow   67

 


 

 

 

 




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