Mansfield Family Links
21st September 2008
Greetings
Our only interest was the person that Francis James Darby married.
--Sarah Ann Mansfield
Francis was the brother of my great grandmother Elizabeth.
Assorted information is on our site:
http://uk.geocities.com/elizabeth_darby_family
There is some thoughts ( by others) that the Mansfields married into Hugeneots
but the corres that I have so far is on the site.
If i get a chance next week i will see if I can sort your string ,first by dates
and then to
addresses in Bethnal Green area.
david
We do need some dates and info from certificates since
there are more families involved than you thought!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Denton" <ms_behaving33@yahoo.com.au>
To: <dell_family@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: Mansfield connection
Hi
My grandfather was Will Bert Mansfield.
His father was John Henry, son ofJames,
James's father's name is William!!
If I am reading
your notes right,
The Thomas Mansfield you have in your family tree,
was my great great grandfather's brother.
1840
My Great great grandfather's name was James Benjamin Mansfield
his father was William,
he married Eliza Marchment
her father Thomas Marchment
St Matthews Bethnal Green 19th October 1840
( Bethnal Green 1840 q4 volume 2 page 2 as
"Eliza" and "James" ???)
1841 Census HO107 Piece 693 Book 3
Old Castle Street,Bethnal Green
James Mansfield 20
Rug
Weaver
Born in this county
Eliza
20
Not born in county
1864 Marriage February 24th
St. Bartholomew Bethnal Green.
Francis James Darby (23) married
1886 their son John Henry married Amelia Bishop,
marriage 1886 q4 Stepney vol
1c page 889 abt 24 y.o.?
then
John and Amelia emigrated to NZ.
John was born in Bethnal Green,
James married in Bethnal Green, as did John.
It is too coincidental, same names etc.
Please get back to me so we can compare further notes, as this is the
missing part of my family tree.
Thank you
kind regards
Karen Burke
William the patriarch
James Benjamin abt 1821
marries Eliza
John Henry
Will Bert
??
Karen Burke
1841 Census
H0107-694 Book 9
Rose Street,Bethnal Green
William Mansfield
64 Basketmaker
Yes
Sarah
55
Yes
Sarah
15
Yes
Different Group
1841 Census
age is number given ( plus up to another 5)
HO107-692-5 Folio 35 page 5
Digby Street,St Matthew,Bethnal Green
William Mansfield 45
Wheelwright No
Mary
55
No
John
20 Labourer
Y
Thomas
20
ditto
Y see fathers profession
Alfred
15
ditto
Y
James
13
Y
1841 Census
HO107-694-11 Folio 41 page 18
Shacklewell Street,Bethnal Green
Ann Dulieu 75 Silk Weaver
Sarah
17
Mary
10
Ann River 55 Silk
Weaver
Grandmother??
1843 q3 Marriage Thomas Mansfield
marries Sarah Cattling at Holborn
different couple?
1844 q2 Thomas Mansfield
marries Sarah Dulieu/Dulien
Shoreditch folio 2 page 27
needs Certificate to verify
Parents!
1845 Birth
24th
March Bethnal Green
Sarah Mansfield
at Henley Cottages, Derbyshire Street, Bethnal Green
Father Thomas Mansfield (Wheelwright)
Mother Sarah Dulieu
1851 Census Whitechapel
2 Rose Street,Bethnal Green
William Mansfield Head Mar
73 Basketmaker
Whitechapel
Sarah
wife mar
65
ditto
1851 Census HO107 /1541 Folio 683 page
38 Church, Bethnal Green
5 Albion Cottages,Hollybush
Gardens?
(1317 of 1320)
Thomas Mansfield Head Mar 27
Carman
Bethnal Green
Sarah
wife mar 23
ditto
Sarah
daur
6
ditto
Thomas
son
4
ditto
Emily
daur
9m
ditto
Different group!
1851 Census HO107/ 1540 Folio 96 page 25
Green, Bethnal Green
2 Digby Street,Bethnal Green
William Mansfield Head Mar 56
Wheelwright
Epping,Essex
Mary
wife mar
65
Roydon,Essex
1851 Census H0107/ 1539 Folio 101 page
7 Bethnal Green
35 Turville Street,Bethnal Green
William Mansfield Head Mar 39 Weaver of
Silk Bethnal Green
Mary
wife mar 38
Domestic
ditto
Sarah
14
Weaver
ditto
James
11
Scholar
ditto
John
8
ditto
ditto
William
4 at
home
ditto
May or
Mary
2
ditto
ditto
1851 Emily Mansfield parents Richard and Eliza born Stepney!
1861 Census RG9-159 Folio 134
page 10 Hackney
2 High Street,Homerton
James Mansfield Head Mar 40 Lithographic
Printer Bethnal Green
Eliza
wife mar
42
Andover,Hants
James
son
17 Transfer
writer
Bethnal Green
Mary
Ann
daur
15
ditto
William
son
12
Scholar
Andover
Thomas
son
10
Scholar
ditto
1861 Census RG9-252 Folio 13 page 25
2 Digby Street,Bethnal Green
William Mansfield Head Mar 66
Wheelwright Epping,Essex
NOT Rotherfield,Surrey
Mary
wife mar
76
Roydon,Essex
1861 Census RG9-255 Folio 73
page 2
Thomas Mansfield Head Mar 39
Carman
Mile End Old Town
Sarah
wife mar
37
Spitalfields
Sarah
daur
16
Bethnal Green
Thomas
son
13
ditto
Emma ??
daur
10
ditto
Mary
daur
8
ditto
Charles
son
6
ditto
1864 Marriage February 24th St. Bartholomew Bethnal Green.
Francis James Darby (23) married Sarah Ann Mansfield (19)
Father Thomas
Mansfield (carrier)
1871 Census RG10-475 Folio 48 page 23
1 Gascoyne Street,Bethnal Green
James Mansfield Head Mar 41
Labourer unemployed Ireland
Eliza
wife mar
39
Whitechapel
James
son
21
Sawyer
Shoreditch
Eliza
daur
20 Fancy
trimmings
Bethnal Green
George
son
17 Paper Marbeler
Shoreditch
William
son
16
ditto
ditto
Richard
son
12
Bethnal Green
Emma
daur
10
ditto
Elizabeth
daur
8
ditto
Henry
son
5
ditto
Benjamin
son
3
ditto
Robert
son
10mths
ditto
1871 Census RG10-091 Folio 74 page 19 Chelsea
1 Pleasant Road,Kensal Rise
James Mansfield Head Mar 50
Builder
Bethnal Green
Eliza
William
Henry
John
1871 Census RG10-488 Folio 40 page 12 Bethnal Green
77 Jane Street,Bethnal Green
Thomas Mansfield Head Mar
50
Carman
Mile End Old Town
Sarah
wife mar
40
Bethnal Green
Thomas
son
23
Bricklayer
ditto
Mary
A
daur
18
ditto
Charles
son
16 Labourer
ditto
1881 from Ancestry RG11-480 Page 59
84 Sceptre Street,Mile End Old Town
Thomas (1822) Head
Mar 60
Carman
Bethnal Green
Emma
wife mar
52
ditto
1881 from Ancestry John son of James and Elizabeth
1891 Census RG12-270 Folio 42 page 15 Bethnal Green
77 James Street,Bethnal Green
Thomas Mansfield Head Mar
73
Carman
Spitalfields
Sarah
wife mar
66
Mile End
18th May
The thing is, my grandmother always said that her mother Hannah ( Ursula)
said that when her mother Sarah Ann Mansfield
married
Francis James Darby it caused a family rift.
Her mother never saw any of the Mansfield's - it was always considered
that
Sarah Ann married beneath her.
She always said that the little bit of Green in Chingford called Mansfield
Park
was named after the Mansfield's!!
Not sure any of that rings true with the information I have above!!
I have written to the Chingford Cemetery to try and get some details from the
church.
18th May
Hannah Darby born 28th November 1869 married Joseph Erridge (born q2 1872 West Ham)
at Walthamstow,Essex date not known
Joseph died aged 82
Harold Francis Erridge was born 1899
Another child is Alice Ursula Erridge
Hannah's sister Elizabeth (1872)
apparently went to Canada during the war (Boer/Gt War?)
and had two sons William and Frank
Surname not
given!
(
Subject : Re - Sarah Dulieu query on GenesreunitedNo,but all the Dulieu's descend from Pierre Dulieu, who came from France in 1675.
A weaver family on the run from the Hugenots,try "www.genforum.com" its free.
And you may find other connections to your family!
good luck Sean 21st May)
start compiling 18th May 2006
